Episode 4: Julie Jamison

November 12, 2024

Guest: Julie Jamison

Guest Bio:

I am a born and raised Ohio native, who is passionate about helping others. Hello, my name is Julie Jamison, my entire life I have believed that helping others by leading by example, taking risks and not being afraid of failure, are so important to continuously grow. This is why my mission is to continue to always lead with service for others, specifically our next generation of children, so they can follow their passions in life.

Episode Transcript

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Mark Entrekin: Everyone. This is mark Enterican. And we are here for the achieving unity. Podcast it's our weekly, podcast every Thursday.

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Mark Entrekin: it's about creating solutions, one reality at a time, and what we could do is make the world a better place by achieving unity through power.

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Mark Entrekin: encouraging.

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Mark Entrekin: inspiring, and including others.

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Mark Entrekin: As we are building better, better relationships from prenuptial.

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Mark Entrekin: our relationship agreements for clear understandings, also helping and coaching parents

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Mark Entrekin: resolving problems in marriage or maybe pre-marriage

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Mark Entrekin: want to be achieving successful parenting for divorced couples or people that are separated, and they have children that we want to

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Mark Entrekin: make sure we take care of, because the best parent is. Both parents, and our children have rights also, even though we do want them to mind. We do want to make sure that they're raised in a good, happy home.

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Mark Entrekin: It's about creating solutions based on the personal or professional realities and possible struggles in front of each of us. So you can see, there's my email, contact me. Anytime I would

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Mark Entrekin: appreciate talking with you.

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Mark Entrekin: This is the achieving Unity Weekly podcast. And it is every Thursday. If it is not a Us. Holiday, which means on Thanksgiving Day it will only be a recorded version

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Mark Entrekin: and will not be in will not be live. But it's 1 pm. Pacific time. 4 pm. Eastern time. Of course, each time zone

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Mark Entrekin: across the around the world, actually

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Mark Entrekin: from reality focus dynamics to the success focus solution. And that's my company, because we create

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Mark Entrekin: those solutions for the best of both of us. So please contact us for more information on using agile and lean outside of software.

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Mark Entrekin: We know all these technologies work in business, but they can also work on our personal life.

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Mark Entrekin: The philosophy can be used in every discipline, every vertical

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Mark Entrekin: and even raising our children

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Mark Entrekin: agile is ability to create, respond to change, turning change into improvement, not just short term, but go long term, enabling success in an uncertain and turbulent environment

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Mark Entrekin: by emphasizing the adaptability

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Mark Entrekin: and collaboration.

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Mark Entrekin: Collaboration and communication are the keys that open the doors to our success.

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Mark Entrekin: Lean is the methodology focused on maximizing value by minimizing waste and optimizing our processes through continuous improvement.

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Mark Entrekin: effectiveness, and efficiency.

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Mark Entrekin: Connect with me. And I'll show you how to break all products and services down for the most complex projects

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Mark Entrekin: to the basic steps, as I said, of training even our children or teenagers.

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Mark Entrekin: Let me show you how I can turn changing into improving, developing into delivery and software into solutions

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Mark Entrekin: wid bid rid Gid. Let's write it down, break it down, review its dependencies and get it done. That's what we all want in the end.

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Mark Entrekin: Then what I'm working on today with Julie, who I'll introduce a minute, and in our world.

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Mark Entrekin: We'll be achieving unity through the power of encouraging, inspiring, and including others.

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Mark Entrekin: Encouragement can be the strongest power known around the world.

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Mark Entrekin: and that power is in the center of empowerment. We can empower each other in teamwork that we accomplish our goals. United by achieving unity, we will become successful, inspiring one another to achieve every goal, and together we will overcome any challenge and celebrate every victory.

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Mark Entrekin: talking back. But to my parents and my coaching

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Mark Entrekin: from relationship issues to parenting time. Sometimes they call it visitation, but there's no parent as a visitor in their own child's life.

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Mark Entrekin: but it's for divorced or divorcing parents.

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Mark Entrekin: I demonstrate how to transform frustration. You probably heard the saying, what the

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Mark Entrekin: frustration

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Mark Entrekin: into understanding, as we quickly realize that anger holds no value.

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Mark Entrekin: Anger is nothing more than actions, not gaining effective results

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Mark Entrekin: from personal relationships to prenuptial agreements.

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Mark Entrekin: And enough is not even required because a lot of us aren't getting married anymore.

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Mark Entrekin: But we can learn to be reality focused, life does happen, and we can embrace and enjoy every moment of it.

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Mark Entrekin: My relationship course workbook also includes and promotes

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Mark Entrekin: personal agreement discussions and employment agreement reviews so that everyone can commit to achieve what they're in

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Mark Entrekin: the relationship to do.

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Mark Entrekin: Here are my 2

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Mark Entrekin: What was it called

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Mark Entrekin: Not barcodes

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Mark Entrekin: the. But then you go to these with your phone, scan them

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Mark Entrekin: and bring up my website home on the left

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Mark Entrekin: and my contact page on the right. So contact us anytime, we do want to hear a chance to talk with you.

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Mark Entrekin: Okay, we do have again. This is on a weekly basis

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Mark Entrekin: right now. Next week's guest is is so long pending. She is. She was gonna be here today. Marty Beth will be here today. We came up a little bit of a medical problem, and we have a wonderful guest that came in to stand in for today. But Marbeth will be here next week, and we'll be talking about

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Mark Entrekin: the International Nonviolent day, which is October second, so we'll be meeting on October 3.rd

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Mark Entrekin: Then Dr. David Clark will be in the next week talking about mental illness.

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Mark Entrekin: After that we talked about national domestic violence, awareness, Hispanic awareness. LGBT history.

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Mark Entrekin: All these we have guest speakers coming. They haven't all committed yet

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Mark Entrekin: on Veterans Day. Well, 11, 7, before Veterans Day, Maury Zukovich will come. Talk to us about Copd, and how it impacts our veterans. Talk about the international day for the elimination of violence against women.

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Mark Entrekin: It's terrible around the world. We'll see what we can do to help stop that violence.

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Mark Entrekin: And then we talk about moms a lot. What about dad having a national play day with dad? A lot of divorced dads don't know what to do in a divorce situation because of our past cultures. Let's help fathers. Let's help mothers. Let's help parents be able to work together in raising our children better.

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Mark Entrekin: As I mentioned.

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Mark Entrekin: Thanksgiving, there will be no, will not be a podcast. On that day.

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Mark Entrekin: But there will be a recorded video for you to come, watch.

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Mark Entrekin: love to have you here

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Mark Entrekin: now for the exciting news, and I just talked to Julie this morning, and I am impressed by the book that she's about to turn out. It is awesome. I've seen the outline which we'll go through in just a second, but it is just a tremendous

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Mark Entrekin: book, and something we all need to read as soon as possible, so let me unshare my screen.

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Mark Entrekin: or did I not remember to share my screen? To begin with, you? Were you guys watching my slides as it went across? Or are you just watching me.

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Julie Jamison: I was watching you, but I didn't know if you had it on a separate.

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Mark Entrekin: And I forgot to put it up. That's okay. We're not going to go back. I will go and get this off of my screen. Here

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Mark Entrekin: I forgot to share my screen. In the beginning.

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Mark Entrekin: my apologies. Let me go ahead and get the

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Mark Entrekin: screen, share off.

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Mark Entrekin: get back to it.

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Mark Entrekin: but welcome to today's. Podcast we are thrilled to celebrate the upcoming release of Julie Jameson's book.

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Mark Entrekin: Dumb goals.

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Mark Entrekin: your leadership, blueprint for mastering the art of turning vision into extraordinary action.

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Mark Entrekin: Launching this coming Saturday, September 28, th 2024.

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Mark Entrekin: Julie's journey, which we're going to talk about today is truly inspiring.

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Mark Entrekin: From her military career to corporate leadership. And now, as renowned fine art photographer, specializing in unique one of one pieces which we'll talk about more of in a second.

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Mark Entrekin: Her story is one of transformation and achievement.

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Mark Entrekin: In this podcast episode we'll dive into Julie's dumb

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Mark Entrekin: goals, goals framework. We'll go into that dumb DUMB. And what that means, and discuss how it can help anyone turn visionary thinking into extraordinary action.

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Mark Entrekin: We'll also explore the idea that the true success isn't measured by monetary value, but by the legacy you create through your unique contribution, whether in business, art, or life.

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Mark Entrekin: Please help me in welcoming Julie Jamison.

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Julie Jamison: Thank you. So Mark, for so much, Mark, for having me today. I am very excited to be joining you and your audience. Yes, I am very excited. Dumb goals is coming out this weekend.

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Julie Jamison: and it's all about really setting goals like your 5 year old self at the end of the day. It's pretty simplistic.

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Julie Jamison: because we have all those barriers, and it sounds like you all have discussed this before of really setting the right example for our children so. Oh, go ahead!

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Mark Entrekin: Well, I was just gonna say I like the way you said that that 5 year old we are at the end of the day, and sometimes we. I've never thought about that before.

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Mark Entrekin: But since you mentioned, it does seem like that at the end of the day. We're we're beat a lot of times.

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Julie Jamison: We are, and I think that it's really important to take yourself back to your actual 5 year old self. That's 1 of the

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Julie Jamison: visualizations that I went through. Really growing the company in the last year itself, and

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Julie Jamison: taking myself back to my creative and allowing yourself to be creative.

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Julie Jamison: which, because we always let the world get in the way.

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Mark Entrekin: Good day.

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Mark Entrekin: I like that what you're saying to to let ourselves be creative.

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Mark Entrekin: but I know we're more of a excuse me.

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Mark Entrekin: a military family, and we weren't as creative. My dad was in war

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Mark Entrekin: and in the army. My mother was a bit more strict, didn't get to be as creative as I wanted to. Didn't even have any creative powers, any creative

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Mark Entrekin: ability. Until I got older. I think we can

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Mark Entrekin: keep that creative thought process

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Mark Entrekin: into our daily lives.

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Mark Entrekin: I think we could maybe take that a little bit further right.

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Julie Jamison: Absolutely and embracing that creative side. You know I was that 5 year old child, that there are a lot of children

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Julie Jamison: that maybe you have one of them for the listener that has 10,000 ideas, and they want to do all of them.

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Julie Jamison: and that was me as a kid and

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Julie Jamison: my poor parents, because one day I wanted to be a farmer the next day a veterinarian, and

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Julie Jamison: but it was exciting. So think about how exciting. It was because you were learning about

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Julie Jamison: whatever it was that you wanted to learn more about. In today's day and age, we have the Internet. So our kids can learn everything from how to tie their shoes, a bow tie to how to start an entire business.

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Julie Jamison: All online.

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Mark Entrekin: It is.

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Julie Jamison: I'm ugly.

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Mark Entrekin: It is, and we think about today, Julia, I do.

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Mark Entrekin: What if? Well, if I would have had this back then, or I would have had that back then.

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Mark Entrekin: But how are we able to best manage

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Mark Entrekin: some of the great things that we have today? So their children are learning from it, and not being overwhelmed by all of this information, social media.

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Mark Entrekin: what's right? What's not

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Mark Entrekin: was valid was invalid.

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Mark Entrekin: How do we do that?

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Julie Jamison: In my opinion it's and I talk about this more in the book, about surrounding yourself

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Julie Jamison: with those that you would be proud to, you know, protect, defend, to, you know, the end type of thing, and

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Julie Jamison: although I chose to go in the military myself, I didn't come from a large military family, Italian, Catholic, more strict.

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Julie Jamison: I think the structure that I had as a child, because it probably kept me a little more focused.

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Julie Jamison: But

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Julie Jamison: I know, mark you, and I talked about this earlier today is that

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Julie Jamison: it's it's not necessarily the fault of our parents or our grandparents, and so on. It's whatever they were taught

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Julie Jamison: and then. But now I really believe there is a huge awakening

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Julie Jamison: in multiple generations

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Julie Jamison: trying to break it

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Julie Jamison: of well, why am I thinking this because of the technology piece. We're getting information so fast. How do you differentiate

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Julie Jamison: for me? I have really dove into trusting my instincts

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Julie Jamison: on the corporate side. I was a quality manager. We had things changing all the time, and I loved it. I loved the constant

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Julie Jamison: new activity, the new problem to solve.

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Julie Jamison: However.

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Julie Jamison: when you're constantly going, going, going.

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Julie Jamison: and then believing, you know, trusting those around you, you want to trust those who you surround yourself with. But I remember one of my larger mistakes, of which I owned up to it's what I was always taught of, hey? I screwed this up. This is how we can prevent it for next time. And here's what I learned, so that others don't make the same mistake. I did right, because we're human.

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Julie Jamison: right.

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Julie Jamison: I went against my instincts. On one of my larger mistakes.

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Mark Entrekin: Wow!

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Julie Jamison: Yeah. And it was because I was taking advice from individuals with years of experience in that industry when my gut was telling me to go a different direction.

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Julie Jamison: Because a lot of times when you're a leadership role, you have to have that eagle eye view that 30,000 foot view. We always use that in the military the 30,000 foot view.

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Mark Entrekin: Yes.

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Julie Jamison: In the weeds. Right? You need to notice certain specific details.

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Julie Jamison: But if you can have that perspective

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Julie Jamison: versus perception.

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Mark Entrekin: That's say that.

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Julie Jamison: Good.

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Julie Jamison: You gotta trust yourself because anytime I have gone against my gut.

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Julie Jamison: It has been me.

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Mark Entrekin: I can only imagine. Let's go into today's topic, Julie, when you're right on track scope, you were serving the military to becoming a corporate leader, finally transitioning into the world of luxury, fine art, photography. Introduce yourself a little bit, tell us about that. If you would.

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Julie Jamison: So I grew up in northeast Ohio, in a big automotive family manufacturing and absolutely humble beginnings. As far as the mentality behind hard work which I fully agree with.

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Julie Jamison: you know, taking your time and just allowing yourself to really throw 110% into anything you pursue. And that was who I was surrounded with.

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Julie Jamison: So I grew up and went to college for aviation, went into the Air Force as military officer and.

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Mark Entrekin: For your service.

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Julie Jamison: Thank you so much

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Julie Jamison: and proudly served as a nuclear missile operator, you know, definitely a scary role. But when you're young you don't even realize, because your frontal lobe isn't finished, the amount of power you have. And I was so proud of that mission. It was hard for sure. In certain situations. It's like learning an entire new language.

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Julie Jamison: But there's a reason it's out of the news. It needs to stay out of the news. We never want to need to use them, and deterrence is key, that I had my all 4 children on active duty nearly 11 all the way down to 2. Yes, I have 4 children

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Julie Jamison: never originally planned to have that many, but I would not change it for the world.

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Julie Jamison: and going in the Air Force. We are adamant on

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Julie Jamison: recruit. The individual retain the family, which is key, regardless of what your family looks like.

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Mark Entrekin: Key.

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Julie Jamison: It's the. It's the retainability and taking care of people and a lot of people from other branches end up switching to it.

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Julie Jamison: but went into multiple leadership roles back to back and concluded my active duty time in the Academia side, teaching leadership team building, giving and receiving feedback with air force Rtc. And to give back as an instructor in that way was so important. It was probably one of my most rewarding roles.

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Julie Jamison: and I know you teach as well. So you understand

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Julie Jamison: how important and how much we learn when we're teaching.

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Mark Entrekin: Yes.

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Julie Jamison: Key. So transition from that right after I had my 4th child, I did my interview for corporate

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Julie Jamison: 2 weeks after having an emergency C-section with my youngest. Of course the youngest had to be the hurricane rolling in.

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Mark Entrekin: Yeah.

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Julie Jamison: The youngest always seems to be that way but did my interview it went amazing. And I had interviewed multiple places as I was stepping away from active duty. They give you time to go. Do interviews and things like that great transition assistance program. It's called Tap.

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Mark Entrekin: Can I touch on that a second? I'm sorry to interrupt you, but that's 1 of the things, and I I do have a military family, and I'm a colonel from the Air Force, and I have

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Mark Entrekin: a nephew that's as high up as he can go without being an officer.

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Mark Entrekin: But what's that like? Is it beneficial? Do you believe to have that

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Mark Entrekin: education, knowledge, and going through that military experience also? Doesn't it

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Mark Entrekin: You may not have manufactured on the same machines theoretically, that they're using there on that current job. But, as you're saying, you've been manufacturing you've been creating and building your whole life right.

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Julie Jamison: Yes, so I. My tagline is exclusively one on one fine art photography, because there's only one of you.

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Mark Entrekin: Okay, what it means to own something just kind of touching more on what you're saying. Truly exclusive.

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Mark Entrekin: how this experience transcends monetary value. It is about legacy, storytelling, and one personal connection to the peace.

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Julie Jamison: It's actually who inspired me to do that earlier in January I was really trying to figure out what in the business like. Why did I not feel as attached that it was part of me? You know where I was proud to go in a room and say I'm the founder and CEO of my galleries right.

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Mark Entrekin: that is exactly right. All right. Now you mentioned the book.

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Mark Entrekin: that's all we're going to yet internex and defining success. And those dumb dumb, which we'll go into what those mean in a second. I may have them here on my screen, but.

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Julie Jamison: The dumb goals framework came from. I had just left corporate.

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Mark Entrekin: I don't.

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Mark Entrekin: the blueprint of success, and one on one fine art photography. It's there's a lot to it in what you're what you're doing and what you're saying.

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Julie Jamison: And because, remember, when you were little and not everybody had the same situation, of course. But if you said you wanted to be a dinosaur, okay, go dress up like a dinosaur. If you wanted to be an astronaut awesome. Go, be an astronaut. But as adults what happens? Reality sets in and people say, that's kind of big. Oh, you have kids. This is not the right time to start a business. Why should you start a business?

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Julie Jamison: and we got this book created to help people, even if it helps one person to me. It's worth it.

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Mark Entrekin: Exactly it.

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Mark Entrekin: It helps one person move forward that that is great.

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Mark Entrekin: Alright. So the d is delusional. Level goals

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Julie Jamison: Take your whatever your goal is and cause in smart. We talk about realistic and attainable, which is great at a certain point. But when you're trying to step outside

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Julie Jamison: cause your only limitation, and your only glass ceiling is right here.

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Julie Jamison: There are no glass ceilings. You get to create your reality.

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Mark Entrekin: And that's kind of where I heard from you. When you said the word, the term perception earlier, you can perceive a glass ceiling.

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Mark Entrekin: But it's all like you said up here.

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Julie Jamison: It is. It's all up there. Women do it in my experience. And I think we can do it in multiple ways. It doesn't mean that that's not realistically like happening right in front of you. And it's unfolding.

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Mark Entrekin: So true.

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Julie Jamison: Taking that step back that 30,000 foot view, the Eagle eye view.

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Julie Jamison: Looking at it because I've had conversations about it with my in-laws and my parents. And I'm like, Okay, I get it now

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Julie Jamison: and we were working on ways to pursue promotions and pay increases, because to me the best thing to do as a leader

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Julie Jamison: I remember having the conversation.

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Julie Jamison: and we deep dive deep, and you've probably heard of doing the 5 Y exercise.

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Mark Entrekin: Oh, yeah, 5.

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Julie Jamison: It's so important. So I mentioned and break that down in the book a little bit more when we go through exercises.

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Julie Jamison: He wanted to be in a leadership role. And so I'm sitting there because we did one on ones at least once a month, if not every 3 to 4 weeks.

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Julie Jamison: And I said, Okay, well, why.

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Julie Jamison: you know. At 1st it was make more money

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Julie Jamison: or no. It wasn't a salary. But he basically wasn't getting the same amount of overtime required to make what he was making on the shop floor.

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Julie Jamison: And I said, Okay.

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Julie Jamison: well, I make less per hour than I did before I was in bigger leadership roles.

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Julie Jamison: So move up. What's the next? Why, why do you want

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Julie Jamison: you know more money, and then it's the stability. And then we finally get down because he'd been in the company for a while

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Julie Jamison: to take it, because I'm not seeing what I like, and I want to help people

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Julie Jamison: get to where they need me to go. Fix it. And I said, Great.

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Julie Jamison: there's your why.

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Julie Jamison: So you need to do that with yourself is keep asking why? Until you actually get to the root.

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Julie Jamison: Even if it's reacting, why am I? Why do? Why do I feel so stressed and anxious about something, because we talk about our children.

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Julie Jamison: We pass our anxieties on to our children

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Julie Jamison: like I am out doing landscape photography.

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Julie Jamison: That's my mom.

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Julie Jamison: I took that on as a young kid.

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Julie Jamison: and then I wouldn't. Why, why would I stand near a cliff right now? The common sense is, if it's eroding, you're gonna fall right. It took me

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Julie Jamison: about 3 months of continuously at least 5 days a week.

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Julie Jamison: going out regardless of weather.

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Julie Jamison: to hike. To

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Julie Jamison: ensure to myself I was safe.

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Julie Jamison: Nobody was attacking me. I watched too many law and order episodes. I think that was half the issue.

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Julie Jamison: But you do like you get like somebody's gonna pop out from a bush and kill you, but I had to get past that. It took me about 3 months of being outside, consistently

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Julie Jamison: to get past that

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Julie Jamison: and move on, and here I am, realizing I'm not actually that afraid of heights. I took that

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Julie Jamison: and pass that on to me. So now what do I say I'm not fond of them, but I'm going anyways.

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Julie Jamison: you know it's where. Where are you looking? Are you looking in front of you at the path? Are you looking down

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Julie Jamison: at the abyss below you.

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Mark Entrekin: Talk to people about that quite a bit that term. Fear

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Mark Entrekin: false evidence about reality.

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Mark Entrekin: and their fears are self-created. Right.

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Julie Jamison: Yes.

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Julie Jamison: yeah, yeah. We do that to ourselves all the time.

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Mark Entrekin: That's good. I like that. You brought up the 5 wise. We don't see that very often

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Mark Entrekin: in the Powerpoint that I wasn't showing earlier I did mention the agile and the lean.

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Julie Jamison: Yes.

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Mark Entrekin: Eliminated waste. I do the link. 6 Sigma as well build the Itl information technology, infrastructure, library build on all those terms and had those.

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Mark Entrekin: But I don't.

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Mark Entrekin: I talked to very few people

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Mark Entrekin: outside of

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Mark Entrekin: my circle. Theoretically, that thinks about those or knows about those. I'm impressed

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Mark Entrekin: as you brought those up, even for our personal life. That's.

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Julie Jamison: It is. You really want to do it in your life, and I am a project. I have my project management certification, and I actually started.

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Mark Entrekin: Pmp.

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Julie Jamison: Seeing it. I got it before I I took the test 8 months pregnant, didn't know I had Covid.

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Julie Jamison: and somehow past it. I was so nervous because I'm not a good test taker. So. But the theory behind is so important, and the book actually walks through. I take you through a lot of questions. And then there's a QR. Code

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Julie Jamison: for the work.

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Mark Entrekin: No, that's that word I couldn't think of earlier. Thank you.

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Julie Jamison: I was like, I think you saw a QR. Code. Yes. So QR code, and it takes you to a workbook that you can download and start writing things out because we get overwhelmed and talk ourselves out of it.

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Julie Jamison: or tell someone our idea too soon.

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Julie Jamison: before we could let it sink.

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Julie Jamison: let it sink in

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Julie Jamison: so early on. When I 1st started. I think I mentioned like my earlier today. My husband said he had chest pains for about 3 weeks.

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Julie Jamison: because I went from.

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Julie Jamison: Let's make a really nice paycheck in corporate to

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Julie Jamison: not making a penny

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Julie Jamison: and fully investing. Right? So that's that's a big. It's a family discussion that needs to happen.

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Julie Jamison: and

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Julie Jamison: what was entertaining was once we finally got to that point where our marriage went through a rough patch.

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Julie Jamison: and it was important that we had it. We needed it.

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Julie Jamison: So my project management brain

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Julie Jamison: went into to me. There is nothing that you can't accomplish

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Julie Jamison: if you outline it, and I take you through a whole exercise of actually outlining your goal

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Julie Jamison: and then really getting granular with it.

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Julie Jamison: because it's like, Oh, well, that that's a 5 min task.

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Julie Jamison: I kept putting off creating my Llc. Because it sounded daunting.

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Julie Jamison: And they're like, Oh.

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Julie Jamison: that's all that's all I have to do to, you know, make the application, and it was way less invasive than I thought it was. But we build it up in our head that oh, this is! This is awful!

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Mark Entrekin: Does that take us? Go ahead!

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Julie Jamison: It's not procrastination. It's that we built it up.

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Julie Jamison: that it's going to be a daunting task.

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Mark Entrekin: Well, I like what you're saying. There, Julie, because I was you were talking. I thought about your next with the U. Stands for in dumb

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Mark Entrekin: your uncomfortable zone.

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Julie Jamison: Hmm.

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Mark Entrekin: Both happens when you step out of your comfort zone and push past limits.

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Mark Entrekin: Does that relate a little bit right there.

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Julie Jamison: It does. This is the one going back to the hiking.

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Julie Jamison: Oh, my gosh! Every single day, my! And then randomly, my husband would call me because I started really leaning into the photography. He's like what you doing. I finally got to the point where I would joke about it, and I'd be like standing on a

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Julie Jamison: clip that was muddy, sinking into the mud.

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Julie Jamison: And I'm like, I'm looking for Bigfoot

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Julie Jamison: because he's like, Are you good? Are you safe, but I got so used to them being outside, and I hadn't.

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Julie Jamison: But we incorporate. We sit inside a lot, so I encourage, even if it's 5 min. Just get outside. I don't care what the weather is, maybe not a hurricane. There's hurricanes going on down south right now.

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Julie Jamison: Don't step in a hurricane, please, for safety reasons. But getting outside in that reality check of like 5 to 10 min

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Julie Jamison: the days. I don't at least do that.

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Julie Jamison: It's like, okay. The 1st 5 min are the hardest

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Julie Jamison: in anything

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Julie Jamison: is okay. Just 5 min before you know it. My entire house is clean.

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Mark Entrekin: No, when I lean in.

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Julie Jamison: Okay, just 5 min to do dishes, move on. And then and then I'm doing my typical mom thing of okay. Well, then, you know shoes, and you know it turns into all that. But if you say, Okay, just 5 min ago, I don't mention that as much in the book. But

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Julie Jamison: the uncomfortable zone is

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Julie Jamison: I was not nuts about heights.

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Julie Jamison: Okay, 5 min walk

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Julie Jamison: before you knew it. 3, 4 months in. I was taking the steeper paths.

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Julie Jamison: And I'm like, Oh, you know what? I didn't die.

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Julie Jamison: Okay.

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Julie Jamison: you know.

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Mark Entrekin: That's awesome. Yeah.

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Mark Entrekin: And

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Mark Entrekin: and I'm just picturing what I read again on on your book. So if I'm jumping ahead or anything.

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Julie Jamison: No, you're good.

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Mark Entrekin: Know, because

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Mark Entrekin: that went back into your your moving out. Take action like I'm hearing you say. Now

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Mark Entrekin: take action and moving forward, regardless of fear or doubt.

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Mark Entrekin: importance of execution. Goals remain dreams. Unless you

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Mark Entrekin: take this out, each of us

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Mark Entrekin: take decisive action toward achieving them.

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Julie Jamison: So it goes back to not only Tony Robbins, but a bunch of other

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Julie Jamison: leaders and business owners that I follow on social media.

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Julie Jamison: And the one benefit of social media is like the short 31 min clips from podcasts such as this.

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Julie Jamison: that really take you to that next level, so regardless of how you're getting the information.

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Julie Jamison: if you are surrounding yourself with individuals.

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Julie Jamison: that if no one around you currently owns their own business, do you think you should take business advice from them?

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Mark Entrekin: Nope.

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Julie Jamison: Probably not right so.

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Julie Jamison: But we like to think that we live through others experiences. It's 1 thing, if you're a parent and you had to experience an emergency with your child. Unfortunately you you lived it, too, but you lived it from the parent perspective.

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Julie Jamison: So.

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Julie Jamison: not taking on everyone else's problems as you go forward is key. You gotta let that go. You gotta just.

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Julie Jamison: I came up with this analogy today because we're getting ready to take our kids up to Banff in Canada, which is gonna be gorgeous. We're gonna be at elevation, and I have a lot of cameras.

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Julie Jamison: So to help train. I've been walking with a 30 pound vest.

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Mark Entrekin: Wow!

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Julie Jamison: Yeah, so because, roughly.

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Mark Entrekin: 30 pounds is heavy.

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Julie Jamison: It's pretty heavy, I mean, it's about the size of my toddler as well, because I have tanky children. They're ready for a zombie Apocalypse and such. But I had the best on, and I thought of this

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Julie Jamison: as I'm out in nature.

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Julie Jamison: But

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Julie Jamison: you're you moving forward is taking the 30 pound vest off. It's letting the baggage go.

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Julie Jamison: You feel how much lighter you feel.

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Julie Jamison: It's getting rid of your traumas

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Julie Jamison: and really getting into the move out. Just take a few steps.

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Julie Jamison: is key.

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Julie Jamison: and that is both going, and and I like i. 1 of the things I say in the book is knowing when to go, and knowing when to slow

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Julie Jamison: as a mom with technology all around me, and business, as you know, if you've done it for a while, is, it turns into 7 days a week.

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Julie Jamison: So initially, my, I wanted to wear stretchy pants, pick up my kids from school. Covid changed me on the stretchy pants thing

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Julie Jamison: and do something I love.

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Julie Jamison: It was that simple. That was my business plan.

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Julie Jamison: Do something that I truly truly love.

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Julie Jamison: and I've been able to pick up my kids.

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Julie Jamison: I've been able to wear stretchy pants when I'm out hiking, you know.

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Julie Jamison: doing something I love that is.

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Julie Jamison: taking it to others.

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Julie Jamison: But when you move out and you take that one step, it's actually not as hard as you think. It is starting a podcast. Like, you have recently

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Julie Jamison: that 1st one probably was

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Julie Jamison: a little like, okay, we can do this right.

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Mark Entrekin: Luckily, even like you. I'm pretty lucky. I don't mind being in an audience. I don't mind being up on stage. Had a great friend, Dr. Moore Orman was my 1st guest, and he's awesome. I've had friends here talking to you has been

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Mark Entrekin: almost like we've known each other all our lives.

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Julie Jamison: Right.

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Mark Entrekin: It's, I think.

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Mark Entrekin: one of those back to your fear on that

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Mark Entrekin: too many times we fear other people, for whatever reason.

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Mark Entrekin: and when we do like what you're talking about with that

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Mark Entrekin: getting outside that comfort zone, the uncomfortable zone, and realize that a lot of people out there are just like you and me. We open up a lot of doors, don't we?

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Julie Jamison: We do, we do. It's key. You surround yourself with those

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Julie Jamison: that you would either want to be a friend with or become.

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Julie Jamison: and when you

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Julie Jamison: she was like I went to the Forbes Women's Summit Power Women Summit a few weeks.

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Mark Entrekin: Oh, wow!

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Julie Jamison: And the more oh, it was amazing! So many amazing leaders and entrepreneurs moyer Forbes was hosting, and Steve Forbes was there as well, they're extremely humble people.

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Julie Jamison: and the more you tell yourself

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Julie Jamison: successful people are just people that choose to be successful.

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Julie Jamison: And I'm a successful person. So you define what your your version of success is, if that's wearing stretchy pants.

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Julie Jamison: whatever you want

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Julie Jamison: traveling whenever you want having time, frame, what is your version of success being surrounded by those you love. Right?

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Julie Jamison: Meeting them.

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Julie Jamison: They're not at arm's length.

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Julie Jamison: right? You want to be respectful, of course, but you also want to. You're they're human. You're human. They put their pants on.

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Julie Jamison: Maybe they jump in both feet. I don't know but

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Julie Jamison: go for it. They put their pants on one leg at a time, just like you. We are all human.

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Mark Entrekin: I'll do.

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Mark Entrekin: Yes.

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Mark Entrekin: Well, then, and I hate to interrupt you, but we only have about 7 min left, and I want to turn into your blocks.

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Julie Jamison: Yeah, I did.

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Mark Entrekin: And overcoming the blocks, both internal and external, that stands in the way of your success. Practical advice for listeners on how to navigate and remove the blocks, holding them back from pursuing their dumb dumb goals.

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Mark Entrekin: Touch on that, if you don't mind.

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Julie Jamison: So I like to. I don't mention this one in the book, but I like to give the example. Steve Harvey is the one that actually got me big on vision boards, and I'm sure you watch.

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Mark Entrekin: Hello, Steve! Harvey!

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Julie Jamison: I love Steve Harvey so much, and maybe it's the Ohio thing, too. But of course he's down to Earth as well, and he gives the example when he's giving advice that his mom kept. He wanted to get this new car.

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Julie Jamison: and he had a rust bucket that was just dead in the yard type of thing on the street or wherever the parking spot was, and his mom kept saying.

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Julie Jamison: You need to get rid of that 1 1st

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Julie Jamison: because she was trying to teach him. You can't get the new car if you don't make space for it.

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Julie Jamison: So when you're setting that

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Julie Jamison: goal, if you are in the mindset of.

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Julie Jamison: I had a different. For example, I had a different title. If you were in the mindset that I am not a business, CEO. I can't go talk to a CEO. That's too much.

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Julie Jamison: There is a shift

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Julie Jamison: that I did earlier this year.

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Julie Jamison: and I went from owner

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Julie Jamison: and like creative lead of the

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Julie Jamison: It took me so long to come up with that 1st title when I started the business, because I'm like I felt like I was impersonating my like.

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Julie Jamison: I haven't done this, you know, but I gave myself founder CEO. Fine art photographer. I changed it in less than 5 min, and I was like, no, I am.

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Julie Jamison: and I keep telling myself I am so. If you're the CEO of your life, what does the CEO of your life do? And then you act like it.

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Julie Jamison: So you have to remove the block, and you want to know what it was, I thought everybody from my, you know.

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Julie Jamison: military career that was following me on Linkedin was, gonna say all these things. Where were all those things? They were up here. I had to get rid of them.

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Julie Jamison: Get them out of the brain. That. Oh, she! She went from middle management all the way to CEO

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Julie Jamison: like? Who the heck does she think she is?

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Julie Jamison: Do you think they actually have the time to give to.

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Julie Jamison: you know.

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Julie Jamison: No, they don't. They're living their own lives.

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Julie Jamison: So just be you.

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Mark Entrekin: Just be you. Yeah, got that time. You just you gotta do what you gotta do. So. And and I'm touching that one.

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Mark Entrekin: What does success really mean? Again, I'm going through the things in your book. And let me get the

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Mark Entrekin: your website out here. But

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Mark Entrekin: success is not just measured by money.

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Mark Entrekin: but by the impact you make the people you help and the legacy. You leave Julie's definition of definition of success.

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Mark Entrekin: creating something lasting, whether through leadership, art, or service to the community.

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Julie Jamison: Yes.

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Mark Entrekin: It's beautiful.

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Julie Jamison: Yeah. So my personal core values are people service and lead with integrity in all my decision making.

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Julie Jamison: And the people

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Julie Jamison: expands

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Julie Jamison: 1st with my family. I want to impact my children as a mom. It's my job to make sure my 4 children are not menaces to society

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Julie Jamison: and slash parent, you know. So that's my job is to get you to 18 alive with all your you know

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Julie Jamison: appendages

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Julie Jamison: hopefully, because I have 2 girls, 2 boys

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Julie Jamison: and

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Julie Jamison: leave the legacy of building your family empire. And we started doing that in my family earlier this year we took 4 kids to Paris, and my son is actually married into architecture. So it's funny how things pass to your children. So he started drawing on these buildings, and I said, Well, there's 4 of you.

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Julie Jamison: Somebody can paint the ceilings.

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Julie Jamison: Somebody can be the architect, the interior designer

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Julie Jamison: and my kids when I go talk to them, and I have an idea. Sometimes I go to them first.st You know what they do, they just keep. Oh, we could do this, and we could do this, and we could do this.

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Julie Jamison: surround yourself with people that build upon your idea.

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Julie Jamison: So when you're building that legacy.

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Julie Jamison: what? What do you want

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Julie Jamison: your obituary to read? Do you want it to have a number.

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Mark Entrekin: Legacy.

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Julie Jamison: Or do you want to have a famous saying in your family? What is your legacy at the end of the day?

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Julie Jamison: And that's so. Key to have.

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Mark Entrekin: And that may be it. We only have a couple of minutes left. That's where I want to go to next first, st Julie. Thank you so much for being on my podcast today, this has been awesome.

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Mark Entrekin: I think you're going to open up a lot of eyes

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Mark Entrekin: and to help people grow to that next step. I did just put your website, your Julie jam the juliejaminson.com into the chat. I'll put your Facebook into the chat. But in the next minute or 2

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Mark Entrekin: do you have a closing statement that you would like to share with us about yourself your book?

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Mark Entrekin: What can you tell us.

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Julie Jamison: Yes.

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Julie Jamison: go set goals 1020, 30, times bigger than you can possibly imagine anything from starting your own business

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Julie Jamison: reaching a sports goal, whatever it is. Maybe it's getting A's. Maybe it's being a better parent, being more patient. Set that goal, and then I want you to multiply it by 1020, or 30,

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Julie Jamison: and the book is gonna walk you through all of that on how to easily do it

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Julie Jamison: and be more patient.

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Julie Jamison: Find where your flags are, and remove those flags, because your life is going to be a lot happier when you think of what you are going to be remembered by

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Julie Jamison: versus thinking about the number behind your name.

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Mark Entrekin: Like you mentioned a few minutes ago. Do they care?

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Mark Entrekin: It doesn't matter. Well, just in closing. Then how do we get your book?

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Julie Jamison: So the book is going to be on both Amazon and Barnes, and noble for pre-orders on the 28, th and all you have to type in is dumb goals, and we will get you all that. And of course, the QR. Code with the workbook in the book it tells you when to open your workbook and dive in even deeper, so that you can. The goal is to get you to believe in yourself and get you out pursuing and taking action on your goals.

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Mark Entrekin: Julie, thank you so much. This is awesome. I will be sending this out. I'll send you a recording also. Be on my site. We'll get this out to as many people as possible. Thank you so much for your time today. It has been an honor talking with you.

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Mark Entrekin: Thank you so much for your time.

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Julie Jamison: Thank you, Mark. It means a lot. Thank you.

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Mark Entrekin: Everybody have a good day.

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Mark Entrekin: Hope to see you next week.

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Mark Entrekin: Bye-bye.

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Mark Entrekin: Cheers.

Episode 4: Julie Jamison

Guest: Julie Jamison

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