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Mark Entrekin: Hello, everyone and happy today. Hope you're having a wonderful day. Today I am Mark, interkin
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Mark Entrekin: from reality-focused dynamics, creating success, focused solutions.
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Mark Entrekin: creating those solutions, one reality at a time. We have a very special show today, and we're going to have fun. And we're going to get into some very deep subjects.
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Mark Entrekin: But before we start
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Mark Entrekin: I'd like to talk to you about the company.
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Mark Entrekin: and what we work on is Number one, and some of what we're talking about today.
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Mark Entrekin: achieving unity through the power
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Mark Entrekin: of caring, helping, and including others.
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Mark Entrekin: We build prenuptial or relationship agreements to help people going through marriage custody, divorce or just relationships, because the nuptial is not required.
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Mark Entrekin: but clearer understandings in coaching parents to resolving problems
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Mark Entrekin: in the marriage before marriage.
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Mark Entrekin: achieving successful parenting time during
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Mark Entrekin: or after a divorce.
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Mark Entrekin: And then we also create solutions based on the personal or professional realities and possible struggles in front of each of us.
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Mark Entrekin: So as you can contact me through my site. www.market.com. You can reach me by email, market com, or you can call me at (303) 362-8733. That's the same as 303 focused because, we must be reality focused
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Mark Entrekin: again, it's achieving unity. It is a weekly podcast right now, in 2024, it is every Thursday
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Mark Entrekin: except Thanksgiving. We will not have a live recording on thanksgiving. It will be a holiday in the Us.
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Mark Entrekin: So we'll have a recorded version that will play.
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Mark Entrekin: But in January 2025, we are moving to Wednesdays, and my courses will take over the Thursday spot.
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Mark Entrekin: but right now it is one Pm. And it will remain even in 2025. On the Wednesdays, one Pm. Pacific time to 4 pm. Eastern time
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Mark Entrekin: from reality focused dynamics to success. Focused solutions. We create
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Mark Entrekin: and build on those focused solutions. So please contact us today for more information on
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Mark Entrekin: using agile and lean. Now this is more on the business side, but it also works outside of software.
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Mark Entrekin: This philosophy can be used in every discipline, every vertical, including our home.
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Mark Entrekin: Agile, is the ability to create and respond to change, enabling success in an uncertain and possibly turbulent environment by emphasizing the adaptability through better collaboration and communication. This, again, is personal and professional.
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Mark Entrekin: Lean is a methodology focused on maximizing value by minimizing waste and optimizing your processes through continuous improvement.
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Mark Entrekin: effectiveness, and efficiency.
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Mark Entrekin: Connect with me, and I'll show you how to break all products and services down for the most complex projects. And I have worked for now for
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Mark Entrekin: Boeing and
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Mark Entrekin: Lockheed Martin, and then all the rockets. We can go for those kind of projects
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Mark Entrekin: all the way down to the basic steps of training our teenagers. And yes, it can work.
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Mark Entrekin: Let me show you how you can transform changing into improving.
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Mark Entrekin: changing, short term. Improving is long term
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Mark Entrekin: developing into delivery. We always hear about to try what I'm trying.
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Mark Entrekin: Well, trying has a percentage. How much have you completed?
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Mark Entrekin: So we go from delivering? I'm sorry from developing into delivering the product or service.
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Mark Entrekin: And we go from software into solutions. Technology is everywhere, even down to little phones in our pockets.
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Mark Entrekin: But we want to do what's called wid what I call wid bid rid it down, break it down, review its dependencies.
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Mark Entrekin: get it done, and we can do that
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Mark Entrekin: achieving unity. Some of the things we're talking about today through the power.
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Mark Entrekin: the harnessing, the power of encouraging, inspiring, and including others.
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Mark Entrekin: Encouragement can be the strongest power known around the world today.
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Mark Entrekin: and that power is in the center of empowerment.
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Mark Entrekin: So if we're encouraging others to do better
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Mark Entrekin: and let them learn how to do better. First, st because too many people just don't know.
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Mark Entrekin: We will become united, united by achieving unity.
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Mark Entrekin: We will become a successful team, inspiring one another to achieve every goal.
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Mark Entrekin: Together we will conquer every challenge to inclusion and celebrate each victory
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Mark Entrekin: personally
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Mark Entrekin: as well as professionally.
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Mark Entrekin: Are you
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Mark Entrekin: someone, you know.
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Mark Entrekin: facing relationship challenges or difficulties with parenting time.
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Mark Entrekin: Frustration
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Mark Entrekin: demonstrate that anger holds no value. A lot of times. It's just frustration. Remember, anger. A, NGER is just actions, not gaining effective results.
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Mark Entrekin: That's all anger is. And we don't want to continue doing things that don't have effective results
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Mark Entrekin: from personal relationships to prenuptial agreements. And again, nuptials not required.
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Mark Entrekin: Life happens and we can learn to embrace and enjoy every moment of it.
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Mark Entrekin: This is to the website home. This is our U. QR. Codes, and to my contact page feel free to contact me anytime. I'd love to hear from you
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Mark Entrekin: going to our current guest later next week is Hispanic awareness, and the person has not been able to get the time
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Mark Entrekin: centered just yet.
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Mark Entrekin: LGBT history. I have to change. The person that was going to be speaking, or our guests
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Mark Entrekin: is has to travel. But veterans day Morzelkovich.
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Mark Entrekin: for international day, for elimination of violence against women. Tara Woodley. She'll be here national play day with Dad. Could a couple of people that were working together? Hope you'll be here for that?
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Mark Entrekin: And, as I mentioned earlier Thanksgiving us, it will not be a live podcast I'm recorded out here.
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Mark Entrekin: Well, now, this highlight of the day, and we'll introduce her in person in just a minute.
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Mark Entrekin: But Miss Garcia, through her own walk.
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Mark Entrekin: or harsh lessons
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Mark Entrekin: brought on by extreme independence, resulted in areas of her life being sabotaged repeatedly.
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Mark Entrekin: Her personal journey of post-traumatic growth has led Miss Garcia to understanding
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Mark Entrekin: and dedicating her life in developing transformational programs.
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Mark Entrekin: various forms of coaching certification courses and establishing a nonprofit to help real time victims.
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Mark Entrekin: Her commitment is to provide lifelong transformational habits that can restore your powerful internal sense of control.
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Mark Entrekin: One of her personal statements.
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Mark Entrekin: We'll talk about it in a few minutes. You don't live anywhere but in your head.
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Mark Entrekin: is why some of her laser laser focused teachings are on aligning
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Mark Entrekin: your mental and emotional belief system.
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Mark Entrekin: Garcia.
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Mark Entrekin: look at it. How are you today?
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Agape Garcia: Wow! Thank you for having me here. I am doing well, despite all the stress I'm under.
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Mark Entrekin: Were telling me about that.
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Agape Garcia: Yeah, we talked a little bit behind scenes about that, but I am just honored to to be a guest on on your on your show here. Thank you for having me.
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Mark Entrekin: This is awesome. Thank you so much for taking the time out here to be with us. It's just gonna be such a learning experience, and we want it to be a fun experience as we do this.
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Mark Entrekin: So as we start off, I've been able to read a little bit about you. We've talked a little bit over the Linkedin and through our emails. But personal stories, experiences. Wow! What you have been through.
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Mark Entrekin: Would you mind sharing a little bit about your journey, and how you have overcome domestic violence.
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Agape Garcia: Well, that could take a lifetime. But what I will do is instead of going from like
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Agape Garcia: childhood to current. I think I'm gonna go current back, because the more I talk about it, and the more I'm able to kind of hear myself as a 3rd party, you know, share the story. I'm identifying the dots. That kind of like
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Agape Garcia: build us up to the adults that we become based on all these milestones in our life, more so childhood, you know, because that's the environment and the space that we had no control over. We could not ask
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Agape Garcia: who our parents were gonna be and what environment. We were gonna be subjected to.
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Mark Entrekin: So good, point, so.
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Agape Garcia: So for me personally, about 3 years ago
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Agape Garcia: I was in a major car accident, and that car accident resulted in having a 1% chance of surviving.
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Agape Garcia: And so I was
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Agape Garcia: so devastated that I'm even hearing that I could have only a 1% chance. I was told that I, you know, was supposed to be paralyzed from the neck down, and I better not make a move because anything could trigger that. So in my neck, brace with my eyes wider than I probably could ever open them. I said to the doctor, the trauma surgeon, I'll be your most compliant patient. Okay?
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Agape Garcia: And I mean, like every day in Icu. I'm asking. I'm petitioning. Why is my life being spared? I need answers. Because because I have. I'm a fighter. I've always fought for. You know my livelihood, my, you know
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Agape Garcia: protection, my privacy, my the roof over my like. I have had to fight because of the struggle that I, you know, was born into, and so I just could not wrap my head around it not being me this time, I didn't have the strength to fight for myself. I knew that it was something bigger than me, so I just kept petitioning and asking why? Why, why, why, why? And it came to me
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Agape Garcia: that I needed to talk about Ptg.
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Agape Garcia: so everybody is familiar with Ptsd. We all have a form of it to some capacity, because most of us have, you know, experienced some form of trauma in our life.
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Agape Garcia: and not enough people really talk about or are aware of. Ptg. And Ptg. Is post-traumatic growth.
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Agape Garcia: So while I'm getting this like Epiphany of why my life is spared, and what I'm supposed to be doing, and how I'm supposed to, you know, start navigating in the world. Now that I'm you know, spared it's just coming to me that sharing my story of surviving a double attempted homicide about, you know, 20 years prior to this car, accident
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Agape Garcia: is really what put me through this journey of, you know, swim or drown, and when you're in that real survival mode of swim or drown on a daily basis
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Agape Garcia: for so many years. You know you become a conditioned person with an outlook of life and a belief system that can be very sabotaging.
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Agape Garcia: Trust is out the door understanding of yourself and your ability to make conscious correct decisions is a little skeptical, and there's a lot that we go through.
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Mark Entrekin: Could see that.
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Agape Garcia: Yeah. And so you know, I just, I just kept saying, like, Okay.
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Agape Garcia: now that I'm understanding, like, yeah, my life is being spared because I'm supposed to share this story and tell the world. Ptg, I mean, you know.
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Agape Garcia: it's like there's so much more than that you think you have this idea of like, yeah, this is what it is, but it's more, you know it continuously grow. You know, day by day, literally because all I was able to do was lay in bed and at least fidget with my phone. So my little fidgeting with my phone was nothing but researching, researching, researching.
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Agape Garcia: I'm researching stuff. I'm coming up with ideas. Okay, how how do I get real time resources without being that victim in real time need? What is available? Because I started thinking about all of the complications that I had when I was in that situation right
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Agape Garcia: here, you know.
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Agape Garcia: I mean here, here's the situation.
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Agape Garcia: I moved from, you know, over a thousand miles. Okay. I was in Illinois. I moved to California. I was 7 months pregnant at the time with the 8 year old daughter. I was in school. I was working, I mean, like I had my stuff together. I was Miss Independent. You couldn't tell me anything. I kind of got my life together right. And then, of course, when you have the opportunity to leave where you're born into and like go somewhere completely across.
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Agape Garcia: You know the nation you feel like, that's a success all in itself. Like, yeah, I'm moving up. I'm moving out, and you know, making it in life. And so that's where I was
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Agape Garcia: and back then there was not Facebook. There was not, you know, all of these social media things to do your research, and you know, really see about somebody. So you know, Mr. Right comes along, or whatever, and
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Agape Garcia: we were together for quite some time, and you know I we were expanding the family, and he got a job opportunity in California. He accepted. He offered for me to stay or go. Of course I was like, well, thanks for giving me the opportunity to make the decision to make up my mind. Of course I'm gonna go. So he's out there about 4 months prior to me, because it was Job related, and I was in school and my daughter's in school.
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Agape Garcia: So I'm waiting until you know the right time, which was spring vacation for us. April. So this way, my daughter doesn't miss a day of school. I don't miss a day of you know my semester, like my semester, is already done.
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Agape Garcia: and we drive
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Agape Garcia: James.
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Agape Garcia: So about 3 weeks later, a month later, my belongings arrive, and I'm unpacking. I'm like in my nest mode. I kind of know where you know. Kind of acquainted with the neighborhood. At this point. My daughter's in school. We have a routine, and I'm getting ready for the baby. So while I'm unpacking and getting my stuff, you know. Put away settled, I find belongings of another female.
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Agape Garcia: I said. Oh, my God!
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Agape Garcia: He did not tell me he had family or friends over here. So
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Agape Garcia: let me see how I'm gonna handle this right. Because, of course, at this point I just gave up my entire life. I don't. I left my job voluntarily left school, left family, friends, everything. So
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Agape Garcia: I waited until dinner was made, kitchen clean, kid bathing in bed.
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Agape Garcia: And it's just us. So okay.
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Agape Garcia: before we go to sleep tonight, I have a conversation, you know, a question a conversation. We need to have a question that I have for you. While I was unpacking my stuff, I came across the remnants of another female, and I would like to know who does this belong to? What's what's going on? He said. You're going through my stuff. You're going through my stuff. No, I'm unpacking and getting settled in before I could finish repeating myself. He had already had me on the floor. He was sitting straddling my pregnant
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Agape Garcia: 8 month belly, with his left hand around my neck, and his right hand closed fist, punching me over and over and over to my head.
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Agape Garcia: and my daughter
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Agape Garcia: up from this like rambling on the floor, and I hear her voice, Mom, mom, and I'm like, Oh, my! I never hear my daughter's voice like that, like something about your kid. The voice, the tone of their voice. It rang in my brain so loud. It was like she was right here, even though I knew she was up the stairs, and I just said, That's my daughter, and I slamm my feet on the floor.
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Agape Garcia: I'm already on the floor, so I slam my feet on the on the ground, and I use my neck as a kickstand, and I thrust my hips to the ceiling. He rolls off of me this way. I pop up. I run around the couch. By the time I get there she's taking her last little step off the you know, off the stairs. I grab her hand, and we run out the door like that.
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Mark Entrekin: Wow!
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Agape Garcia: Am doing 45 days, and my whole entire life that just got there
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Agape Garcia: is gone
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Agape Garcia: like this.
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Mark Entrekin: I'm so sorry.
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Agape Garcia: Oh, my! Gosh! So.
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Mark Entrekin: He had never put. I'm sorry, not too sure. He he had never exhibited this type of.
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Agape Garcia: Exactly, no.
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Mark Entrekin: Before.
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Agape Garcia: No, he did not, and I was told before I left by a very good friend of mine. She said, you need to have a really big argument like, you guys had your little spats. But you need to have a really big argument because you need to. You need to really know you're you're leaving everything. She told me that she's a wise woman. I said, You know what? Okay, I'm going to do that.
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Agape Garcia: And I did. I did I? It was on purpose. It was intentional. Yes, I did that, and you know what there was nothing for me to be concerned with. I appreciated that words of wisdom because that was important. But you know what? The outcome
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Agape Garcia: was good. I didn't have any red flags. So what I learned today 20 years later. Okay, is that narcissistic abuse is quiet. It's very silent. And that power and control wheel actually has more validity than what meets the eye. Because, see things.
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Agape Garcia: Let me say it like this. People
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Agape Garcia: who, I will say, are predators, people who know what the protocol is, what the what the behaviors are, the levels to measure milestones, so they know what to how to raise it to the next level.
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Agape Garcia: I'll say it like this, you know, it starts with love bombing and all this praising. You're so beautiful! Oh, I love how you do this! Oh, I love how every little thing is so great!
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Agape Garcia: And then then the time. Right? So more time, more time. I just want to spend quality time. Oh, I love spending time with you. Oh, you make me so happy that's at the time.
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Agape Garcia: And this becomes
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Agape Garcia: it's it's it's exciting, it's new, it's beautiful, it's feelings. But here's the thing
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Agape Garcia: when it's not authentic, when it's not genuine when it's not real.
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Agape Garcia: Okay, what they're doing is they're watching your reaction. So they are able to tell.
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Agape Garcia: And as long as that love bombing is starting to allow little chips of this like negativity, or these little you know.
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Agape Garcia: Negative banters, or that turns into like semi disrespectful, then becomes a little bit like demeaning. It's these are the things that start really small that you don't really notice until it can start chipping, chipping, chipping to the point where you're like, who am I? Why am I sad? Why don't I want to go home. What the heck is going on here I have no time to spend with my friends. I have no time to spend with my family. I feel like I have to check in and
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Agape Garcia: ask permission and and be defensive all the time, and I don't even know who I am anymore. I mean, these are real things.
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Mark Entrekin: Radar.
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Agape Garcia: So with this particular individual.
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Agape Garcia: The 1st thing was.
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Agape Garcia: you know, 2 years we're dating. We're we're happy now. We're expanding the family. Now we have all this exciting new stuff going on, and the moment that I was gone gone, meaning my community, my support system, my friends, my family, my job. Everything that allows me to be independent was gone, and I was solely dependent on that person.
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Agape Garcia: There was a shift.
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Mark Entrekin: It seemed like there was a control. Help me out here agape. It seemed like he in this case.
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Agape Garcia: Well, here's yes and no. Yes, that's what it was. But no, that's not what was identified, or even acknowledged real time, because we're a family. I'm pregnant with your baby. We're combined. We're coming together into our own home. Why would I feel like it's anything outside of what we're saying? We're gonna do
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Agape Garcia: I did not see or feel or no flags went off about. Oh, my gosh! I should not do this. I should not be able to trust what he's saying like. There was none of that. So I learned later, after I was, you know, licked my wounds for years, you know on end. You know this is this is a part of that patient, slow abuse
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Agape Garcia: that people inflict, that take time because you have to earn that trust you have to earn that love. You have to be able to identify what are the boundaries and the thresholds and the non-negotiables? Because if you can push a little bit and a little bit more and a little bit more and a little bit more. It's eventually going to get to that point where you break that person down.
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Agape Garcia: whether it's mentally, emotionally, financially, physically, economically, with technological, you know, cyber, you know, stalking and abuse, it comes in many different forms, and when you are emotionally involved, your emotions can blind your logic. That's why, when there is, you know, this devastation or these unexpected breakups and all that kind of stuff there become there, there's this
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Mark Entrekin: The next level.
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Agape Garcia: with all of that I had endured from that moment of, you know, running out of the house and knocking on the neighbor's door and calling the police. And you know.
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Mark Entrekin: I'm glad you did that.
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Agape Garcia: Choice that I have. I had nothing. I had nobody.
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Mark Entrekin: A copy. I I so look up to you for what you've done. But one of the things that I have learned and talked with people.
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Mark Entrekin: They don't go next door. They don't call the police. They go run inside their car. They just go hide in the yard. They don't take that strong step forward
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Agape Garcia: Yeah, it sure does. And thank you. Because you know what? Coming from Chicago, Crooked County for those that know.
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Agape Garcia: They're out in 2 h. They're back home in 2 HI had no idea what was going on. I'll tell you what was not going on. What was not going on. I was not getting any sleep. What was not going on is that I had no idea what was what was to be expected? Was I expecting him to come home in 2 h? Was I expecting him to be home in the next day, like I had no idea I had to learn where I just
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Agape Garcia: where I where I just decided to to spend my life or move my life, because now I'm high risk. I can't travel anywhere, you know. I had a way to go to the emergency room. I had a way I could not even go that night. Why, let me tell you why? Because
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Agape Garcia: And I said to myself, I don't know if my unborn child is okay right now, but I cannot leave my daughter by herself anywhere, because I don't know anybody. I am not going to take my daughter to the emergency room with me, have her up all night long, and then hear everything that was going that happened. She heard she heard rumbling. She didn't see what happened, and there was nothing visible because he was punching me here.
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Agape Garcia: I did not want her to be exposed to me, telling my story to doctors and nurses. And here all night long, are you kidding me? So I said, Okay, I'm gonna have to go home. I'm gonna have to do this research. I'm gonna have to see what the heck to expect. Who to call. What can I do? It's 11 o'clock midnight, you know. I got to take her to school in the morning after I drop her at school. I got to get to the er because you know what I only have 7 h to be at er because I have to go back and pick her up when the bell rings.
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Agape Garcia: My lights went off after after I spent a week and a half in line, applying for food stamps, begging to see if I can get any sort of assistance to feed me and my children. Okay, so while I'm over here fighting for my safety. Now I'm fighting for our livelihood, while he's like with his feet up, you know, getting served, having access. And all of these things, so
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Agape Garcia: all of this to say that you know, if I didn't experience that teenage abuse, that physical abuse, you know if I didn't. If I didn't lose my sister at a toddler
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Agape Garcia: stage in life, if I didn't, if I wasn't abandoned by my mother as a toddler, if I you know, if I didn't have the dad that was unable to cope with life, and, you know, be checked out completely. If I didn't have all those things. I would not be that strong person that I am today, because since I was pushed out of the womb, I came into this world having to fend for myself and figure life out.
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Agape Garcia: So if it wasn't for that struggle as a child to mow lawns, clean cars, clean houses, pull weeds, change diapers to go get bread, milk, and cereal. For myself.
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Agape Garcia: I would not be able to sit there and convince myself at 2526, 27 that I could be a single mom in a life or death situation with 2 kids, and I can handle it. There's no way in the world. People would have jumped off the cliff.
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Agape Garcia: So being that sole provider, that sole protector staying off social media figuring out, you know, what am I? Gonna what am I gonna feed my kids tonight? How are we gonna make it? What you know? How am I gonna be able to provide? How can I protect? You know? And I and I, and I have so physical legal custody of them, so they're all mine. I share them with nobody. They are all my responsibility. I receive no child support from either one. Nothing.
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Mark Entrekin: Good example. That is so true. Congratulations on what you did.
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Agape Garcia: It wasn't. I'm sorry, I said. You know it was not. It was not easy, because, let me tell you that when my daughter was ready to leave the nest, she said, Mom, I'm I'm so sorry for everything that happened to you. I respect you so much on how you were that helicopter mom, that one that was every time I turn around you're there. I can't get away with anything, but you know what you were emotionally unavailable for me.
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Agape Garcia: and you know what I cried and cried, and I couldn't believe it. I was so freaking, offended, and hurt by that comment. But you know
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Agape Garcia: And I said, You know, this is something I don't want to stop because I realize how broken and damaged. I am from being pushed
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Agape Garcia: Okay, so now that she's an adult, you know, knocking on 30, and now that we understand certain things, and we've gone through that work together when we know each other's love language, you know we're good. But I didn't stop there. I kept going and going and going, and I believe that if I didn't do that I would not have had the ability to lay in that Icu, and not feel sorry for myself.
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Agape Garcia: You know I would totally be in there doing that. You know that. Why, me? Why, why me? I wasn't doing the why me, why is this happening I was doing? Why me? Why am I being chosen?
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Mark Entrekin: Love what you're doing agape. Sorry, Rob, but that's 1 of the things that I will try to help people in that process also
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Agape Garcia: Yeah, I I can. I can share quite a few pointers for that. So you know, I'll mention 3 things right away. You know one is understanding where your triggers reside. Okay.
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Mark Entrekin: Understanding where your triggers reside. Okay.
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Agape Garcia: That's right. So there's there's 2 types of triggers. You have your positive triggers, and you have your negative triggers.
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Agape Garcia: Thank you. So this is what I want you to think about. Maybe maybe you could even give a demonstration. So I want you to think about your favorite song
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Agape Garcia: space in your body, and you have a physiological change when you are negatively triggered. Okay, so once you are able to identify that. So here's your second, your second leg at when you're able to identify where your trigger resides, and you know that that's what's happening. You are in the most authoritative moment in the day. Because now you have a choice
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Agape Garcia: if you're looking for a potential, you know, outcome the one that you want, think about how you need to respond opposed to react. So you can get what you're hoping to get out of that situation right.
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Agape Garcia: And the other thing is, you know, leveling up your coping skills. You know. What are you thinking? Is your is your inner voice and inner critic? Or is it a cheerleader? Because if you don't know how to intercept
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Agape Garcia: Okay, and you can move a million times, but you live in your head. So if you don't get that space cleared up.
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Agape Garcia: Well right, and you know what, and the more informed
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Agape Garcia: Dictator, the more you are informed, the more confident you are in the decision you're making. Why? Because the moment you acknowledge there's an issue, then you should immediately go to see what are your options. Once you can identify your options, then you have the ability to make a choice. Once you make that choice.
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Mark Entrekin: It is. Thank you so much. I love that you talk about that because I work with fear a lot. And of course there's all kinds of definitions of fear, and I always grew up learning that
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Mark Entrekin: About a little bit more about you don't want to get too personal. But how are you doing now? I love what I see that you're doing and spreading out, and the reason that we are talking with each other through a friend of ours, that you were referred to me, which I love
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Agape Garcia: Yes, sweetheart, so I've been off social media, my entire life. I never even had my space. It was not until I came out of the hospital from surviving that car accident that I decided to get online and have some sort of presence.
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Agape Garcia: And that mutual friend of ours is one of the 1st people that I met. When I was 1st starting my telling my story, I was on their podcast
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Agape Garcia: and we just connected so much because she really felt my spirit and my commitment to you know the community I'm serving under this umbrella of domestic violence.
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Agape Garcia: and we have remained friends. We have we have? There are a handful of people that I've met along the way that we have found each other, that we are really bonded and connected because we are servant leaders that are giving back to the less fortunate. Even if we are still ourselves in a less fortunate situation, we still have the heart to give back, because you know what we made it this far. So we know
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Agape Garcia: Yeah. So that's the thing. Right? Is that real time resources are?
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Agape Garcia: I don't know. Are they around? So I'm laughing. And it's not funny, because here's the thing, you know. With that that incident surviving that double attempted homicide that happened at 11 o'clock at night. Do you think that I was in line at 1st shelter. Do you think that there was? You think that shelters advertise where they are, and that there's a line out the door that they'd be like, Oh, yeah, okay, we can accept you. There's no such thing as that.
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Agape Garcia: But it's 11 o'clock at night, and you know what if this does happen 15 min ago? You know there's a process that needs to be in place. Did you get a restraining order? Do you have you know? Do you have some? Do you have an advocate? Do you have paperwork? Do you have this? Do you have that? Because think about it. Anybody think about it. Okay, I'm going to go super extreme. Right now. There's, you know, a transient outside. They're high on meth. They're like way out there, high on meth, and you know what they're going to go frantically into the shelter and say I'm being abused, and I need a bed.
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Agape Garcia: If you want to? Opposed to having any Tom, Joe, or Jane coming through the door. So you know, there's there's a lot of different things that people need to really consider when they ask those questions about? Well, can't you just do this? Or can't you just do that?
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Agape Garcia: Yeah, we can move out. But moving on is the problem.
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Mark Entrekin: There you go. Well said, you can move out. But moving on is the problem.
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Agape Garcia: That's where the resources are being limited. Like, I said, if you think about, if you think about where the criminal gets to go, they get to go to this establishment that is structured that has food being delivered. A gym being there so you can stay healthy counseling. You could be on good behavior. You could get a job. You could make your money, you can have access to a law library. There's all these beautiful resources.
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Agape Garcia: I'm not saying that it's easy to live in that environment. But I'm telling you what's available, and listen.
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Mark Entrekin: There's a foundation there, though, right? There's a kind of a foundation for them there.
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Mark Entrekin: It's not a it's not a great situation, by any means. But what is it? What's that saying? There's 3 hots in a cot for them.
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Agape Garcia: Exactly. Exactly. I had the whole wide world to my fingertips, which is, I'm a grain of sand in the ocean. Okay, that's what that equated to. And here's the thing. I just want to tell you how serious this is.
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Agape Garcia: That's a luxury that people have concocted in their brain. That jail is. It's like a luxury. And and when you talk to the survivors that were victims that realized they were victimized, and they had to start from scratch with nothing.
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Agape Garcia: You know. It is true it is a luxury in comparison to what the victim had to go through, to survive and provide for their children.
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Mark Entrekin: And it's so true, we could do another podcast. On that copy. So that's I. Oh, that's just another
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Mark Entrekin: good, administrative professional help is almost laughable. It's so sad, but it's almost laughable. So what can we do to help others? Maybe not as traumatic as what you've had? But how can we help others that may have been through similar situations.
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Agape Garcia: Yeah, thank you. I did go on a tangent there. So thank you for that. Okay, so so the nonprofit confronting domestic violence is the one that I founded from you know Icu. And you know any contributions, whether it's volunteers sitting on the Board community involvement donations whatever. Anything helps because what we do is we provide real time resources.
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Agape Garcia: And what I mean by that is, we do take calls from people that are dealing with the situation right now, and what I'm able to do is, you know, calm them down. And I ask.
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Agape Garcia: what is their current situation, so we can assess what their immediate needs are. Then we go to all of these organizations that we have at our fingertips and see, okay, this is what they need. Here's here's, you know a person or an organization that is being funded, that is open, that is, currently, you know, assisting this community. Let me give you this information. Here's, you know, 3
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Agape Garcia: 3 resources and some important steps to take, you know, for yourself. And then, you know, if later on, you know, they go through and they find what they need, and their next, their next need is relocation, where maybe they found a shelter. Maybe they didn't, but they need to get there. Then that's that's where the program the heart of our program comes into place.
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Agape Garcia: So on top of that confronting domestic violence is networking and collaborating with other multiple organizations that help give a full service of support and resources to this community to prevent folks going back to that abusive relationship. So there's financial literacy. There's a job opportunity. There's there is. It's a whole community.
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Agape Garcia: So that's how.
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Mark Entrekin: That is excellent.
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Agape Garcia: It takes a community.
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Mark Entrekin: It does. How can we help get the numbers that
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Mark Entrekin: you you got such a strong?
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Mark Entrekin: You got you got such strength by doing that how.
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Mark Entrekin: And we could get onto another school issue.
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Mark Entrekin: how we can get this information out to people, whether it be in the high schools.
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Mark Entrekin: How do we let people know that you exist, that what you're doing exists for others.
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Agape Garcia: Well, thank you for saying that, because it's unfortunate that nonprofit organizations have to be in existence to fill these gaps that are not funded by, you know, government agencies and that provide these types of resources or you know, platforms.
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Agape Garcia: So you know, you're gonna get me on another tangent as it relates to school, because at the minute you're talking about sex education is the minute you should also be talking about full consent. Okay.
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Agape Garcia: and grammar School Middle School High School. They don't do that. Only the colleges and universities under the under the Violence against Women Act has the funding to provide, you know security and or resources and or training slash teachings around domestic violence. So it really is word of mouth. It really is visibility. At this point you know. What am I going to say? Social media? You know I mean.
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Agape Garcia: Unfortunate that you're not looking for these types of things unless you need them. This is not something that you're searching for, unless it's like something happening in your life or somebody that you love, and you're trying to help them. Otherwise you're not thinking who's gonna think about domestic violence unless they have to.
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Mark Entrekin: Unless they're encountered with it unless they're it's happened to them.
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Agape Garcia: Or somebody they love. That's what I'm.
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Mark Entrekin: Or somebody else, right
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Agape Garcia: So. So I want to share something really important, because well, 1st of all, our auction is live right now, if you're interested, if you can't make it to the event. October 27, th at the Del Mar Social, you could go online and see. You know, the awesome stuff that we are planning for that evening, and there are items that you can, you know, browse and and put a bid on right now, if you wanted to.
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Mark Entrekin: Is it online or just in person.
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Agape Garcia: Yeah, it's both online is the live is the silent auction. And then we're gonna have the live event where the auction will be both live and silent. We kind of mix it up a little bit.
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Mark Entrekin: Do you have a website? I'm sorry to put you on the spot. Is there a way we could look this up if I was to go out to the web right now, or to go out to the web right now.
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Agape Garcia: Yeah, confronting tv.org.
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Mark Entrekin: Confronting dvdivesticviolence.org confronting dv.org. Okay, thank you.
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Agape Garcia: Yes, thank you so much.
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Mark Entrekin: Yeah, that.
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Agape Garcia: Here's this amazing, beautiful thing that took place over the last year. So not only I shared the mission of domestic violence. We had a vision that I had to take off of our website because the vision became a reality overnight. Last year in September 30, th Governor Newsom signed a bill, Sb. 553. It's a legislative bill, and it is mandating that California organizations have a work.
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Agape Garcia: violence prevention plan in place, and they are making sure that Cal Osha is the enforcing agency.
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Agape Garcia: So multiple things here. Number one, it's a legislative bill which means Cal Osha also needs to be educated on this bill because it was not their. It is not their policy. All right. Number 2,
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Agape Garcia: is that obviously domestic violence is becoming a bigger and bigger issue. The needle has moved, the statistics have increased that now they're putting this, you know, mandatory response plan in place for organizations. So this is not just a response plan. It's a prevention plan. It's a.
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Mark Entrekin: Beautiful.
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Agape Garcia: Plan. It's a following up plan. But you know, yeah, I agree, it's beautiful. But here's some some things that some gray zones to think about right.
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Agape Garcia: If you 1st of all, if you look at the statistics, one out of 2 women that needle has moved, it used to be one out of 3. But now it's 1 out of 2, 1 out of 4 men. If you have 100 people.
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Agape Garcia: employees that coming to the the job site every day you got 30 of these 100 employees dealing with something. So what is the risk that you're going to have domestic violence spill over?
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Agape Garcia: It's pretty high.
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Agape Garcia: that's right. And so that is still such a social stigma. You are hoping and depending that if people employees are going to report it so that it can be prevented, and then take it a step further. Emergency responders. Domestic violence is the riskiest call for emergency responders to respond to. So now, me and you are the 1st responder.
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Agape Garcia: So there's a lot that goes into this. It's not just a written policy plan. It's not a policy. It's a plan. It's not just a written plan, but it is a actionable plan that people need to be trained to understand and how to respond, mitigate, prevent.
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Mark Entrekin: To respond.
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Agape Garcia: Respond. That's right.
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Mark Entrekin: How to handle it. Once it happens.
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Agape Garcia: That's right. So if you, if you're in healthcare, industry or law enforcement industry, you are exempt.
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Agape Garcia: If you're a small business, not open to the public, and you are compliant with your injury and illness. Prevention plan on an annual basis. You are also exempt. If it's anything outside of that, you need to be compliant, and the fines start at like 12,000, and they go all the way up to 160,000, and I talked to the Department of Industrial Relations on a weekly basis. They oversee Cal Osha.
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Agape Garcia: So I asked, How are you guys doing this? You know, audit, how are you making sure that people are compliant? They said. We we don't have to be there for anything
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Agape Garcia: specific to a violent action on site. We could be there for anything, and the moment that we're there for anything we're asking, that's how we're making sure that people are compliant, so to say, the least, based on my
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Agape Garcia: boots on the ground subject matter expert in, you know, domestic violence, but also in my professional life of compliance, physical security, access, control, communication, project management and all that stuff. I am now your Sb. 553. Sme. I am giving.
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Mark Entrekin: Subject matter, expert.
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Agape Garcia: That is right.
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Mark Entrekin: Sme.
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Agape Garcia: Offering. Yeah, I'm offering Sb, 553 training. I have already taken care of a school district. I have already taken care of a local family owned business, and I'm hosting 3 classes at the better business bureau at the end of the month. Domestic violence. Spillover is a real deal at the job. Billions of dollars are lost in productive in productivity and response and lost time.
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Agape Garcia: It goes on and on and on.
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Mark Entrekin: It does, and it's a domestic violence that we have the hate and anger and prejudice that I talk about and share with others. We have got to work together. I tell you the last couple of minutes this time has just flown by.
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Mark Entrekin: We're gonna have to do this again, maybe again in December, at least by January.
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Agape Garcia: We totally should.
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Mark Entrekin: Let's let's make this redundant make it recursive. We need to do this.
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Mark Entrekin: but if you have, and you do
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Mark Entrekin: just a couple of minutes.
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Mark Entrekin: What can we close on today that how can we help people
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Mark Entrekin: in that next step.
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Mark Entrekin: and not to be afraid to report it? But
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Mark Entrekin: well, you tell me, what? What are a couple of just a couple of minutes here? How can we close today to help people
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Agape Garcia: Yeah. So I'm gonna give you a couple of things. I'm actually gonna share the posting that I did before we got on our call today. And I don't do social media. So this was way outside of the norm for me. But this is what I this is what I said today.
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Agape Garcia: Domestic violence does not discriminate. Everyone knows at least someone fear of the unknown can hold us hostage to the abusive toxic environment. It may seem like there's only 2 options. Wait until the personal breaking point is reached, or wait until being personally broken is reached. But another option is not letting that fear leave you with only the choices of option, one and 2 above.
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Agape Garcia: Alright. So what you what you want to conquer you must
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Agape Garcia: confront. You are your big.
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Mark Entrekin: Well said.
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Agape Garcia: Yes, you are your biggest asset. You influence so many people. If you're a parent, your children are looking at you, they're looking up to you. You are their hero. How do you want them to see you? And what emotional intelligence and example do you want to give them? So they have the strength to stand up for themselves.
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Mark Entrekin: Hello!
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Agape Garcia: You guys would today.
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Mark Entrekin: Thank you so much. That's what I look at with the people who talk about feedback and feed forward is that child's feed forward and let's help them grow.
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Mark Entrekin: Wow! Oh, that is that is so beautiful! Thank you so much for being here.
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Mark Entrekin: I mean to cut you off because we have to do this, and we'll talk about something else coming up in December, because I've got several items with humans rights Day in January. I have more. Let's build one around
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Mark Entrekin: a subject that we could put together and get it out to more people, and let's continue to help others grow forward.
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Agape Garcia: Let's do it.
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Mark Entrekin: Thank you so much. I appreciate you being here. Let's continue talking thanks to everyone who joined today. Again, this is recorded if you need it. If someone else needs it, let us know. We all can work together, and, as agape said, it takes a community. Let's be part of
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Mark Entrekin: that community.
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Mark Entrekin: Thank you. All hope to see you again here next week.
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Mark Entrekin: Cheers.
