Episode 13: Art Still

December 10, 2024

Guest: Art Still

From his early days at Camden High School to earning a scholarship and graduating from the University of Kentucky, sports were Art’s guiding light, keeping him focused and out of trouble.

Drafted as the second player in the first round by the Kansas City Chiefs, Art played ten remarkable years before concluding his NFL career with the Buffalo Bills. Now, he channels his energy into a mission to encourage, inspire, and include people in taking proactive steps towards wellness while raising critical awareness of rare diseases like HaTTR Amyloidosis.

Art's philosophy is simple yet profound, just as in football, life requires a game plan, constant adjustments, and a commitment to uplifting others.

Websites where Art is featured or can be found:

https://www.google.com/search?q=what+position+did+art+still+play+in+the+nfl&rlz=1C1ONGR_enUS988US988&oq=what+position+did+art+still+play+in+the+nfl&gs_lcrp=EgZjaHJvbWUyBggAEEUYOTIHCAEQIRigATIHCAIQIRigAdIBCDg0OThqMGo3qAIAsAIA&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8

https://www.onlc.com/proday/astill.htm

https://www.ukalumni.net/s/article/Arthur-B-Still

https://www.nfl.com/players/art-still/

https://mosportshalloffame.com/inductees/art-still/

https://www.amazon.com/stores/author/B0797D23SC

https://www.chiefs.com/hallofhonor/players/artstill

https://www.linkedin.com/in/art-still-79629195/

https://footballfoundation.org/honors/hall-of-fame/art-still/2386

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Art_Still

https://www.google.com/search?gs_ssp=eJzj4tTP1TewMCtIMzJg9OJMLCpRKC7JzMkBAETBBpg&q=art+still&rlz=1C1ONGR_enUS988US988&oq=art&gs_lcrp=EgZjaHJvbWUqDAgBEC4YJxiABBiKBTIPCAAQIxgnGOMCGIAEGIoFMgwIARAuGCcYgAQYigUyDAgCEEUYORixAxiABDIKCAMQLhixAxiABDIGCAQQRRg9MgYIBRBFGD0yBggGEEUYPDIGCAcQRRhB0gEINTM2MWowajeoAgCwAgA&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8

Episode Transcript

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Mark Entrekin: And I say that for the most of the engineers that may be on board or listen to the recording

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Mark Entrekin: agile is a methodology. I'm sorry it's a framework

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Mark Entrekin: within a process of project or program management.

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Mark Entrekin: Lean is another way to manage projects and programs to build quick, fast solutions and eliminate waste.

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Mark Entrekin: The philosophy can be used in every discipline and not just software. It goes in every vertical, including our homes personally and professionally

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Mark Entrekin: and agile, is the ability to create and respond to change. Everybody says change is inevitable. We have problems with change. So we're going to turn that change into improvements.

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Mark Entrekin: It enables success in an uncertain and possibly struggling environment by emphasizing adaptability through better collaboration and communication.

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Mark Entrekin: Lean is the methodology focused on maximizing value by minimizing waste. How much waste do we have every day? How many times do we procrastinate? I don't waste any time at all. I procrastinate right away

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Mark Entrekin: because we want to optimize our processes through continuous improvement, effectiveness.

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Mark Entrekin: personally and professionally down from the most complex business projects to the most basic steps of training. Our teenagers

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Mark Entrekin: and I have worked for Lockheed Martin. I have worked for Boeing, and I did have 2 teenagers at one time, so that was always fun. But it works, I mean, just think of a busy morning at a family breakfast.

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Mark Entrekin: But now for the heat, the the

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Mark Entrekin: tributor of the day, and the guy that I just talked to last week just met.

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Mark Entrekin: It's exciting. And to see what he's doing with his life. What he's done with his life

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Mark Entrekin: sports were the fuel for art, still staying out of trouble

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Mark Entrekin: receiving a high school diploma from Camden High School, earning a scholarship and graduating from the University of Kentucky.

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Mark Entrekin: He feels he was very fortunate to be drafted as the second player in the 1st round with the Kansas City chiefs, where he played for 10 years.

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Mark Entrekin: He finished his career with his final 2 years, the Buffalo Bills ending in 1989.

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Mark Entrekin: The sport, he says he is playing now.

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Mark Entrekin: and we'll be talking about more today is the game of life.

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Mark Entrekin: Rules and regulations are similar to what he learned in football.

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Mark Entrekin: in football you have to follow a game plan.

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Mark Entrekin: Within the game plan. There are constant changes and adjustment, even more so

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Mark Entrekin: with the game of life. You can find out more about art, and at the bottom, if you go to www.nfl.com forward, slash players! Forward! Slash! Art, dash still.

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Mark Entrekin: But for now let's talk to art and see what he's doing. Art, thank you for being here.

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Art Still: Oh, I thought I thought she was talking about the other guy. Oh, that was me. Okay, my fault. Yeah.

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Mark Entrekin: That is huge.

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Art Still: When you're in the 5th person, man, you got 5 people you can choose from.

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Mark Entrekin: Oh, but you're the one you're the top one today, because we want to know about you and what you're doing, because I'm excited

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Mark Entrekin: about all the things that you're doing.

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Art Still: Well, I mean I'm excited to be part of the show, and I know you know you was bringing up some things about family and marriage and all, man. Those are things that I can truly relate to. You know I had. I got 5 girls, 6 boys.

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Art Still: and then on top of that I got my 25th grandchild coming on the way in May.

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Mark Entrekin: Let's go over those numbers again. How many kids.

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Art Still: I got 11 kids and got the 25th one grandchild coming up in May. So I always, you know. I always tell people. You know I'm still a young man. I'm still reproducing just from a different angle.

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Mark Entrekin: There you go!

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Art Still: And then, hey? And then you brought.

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Mark Entrekin: That attitude.

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Art Still: You brought up the thing about marriage, and all, too. And I always I've been, you know. I tell people I'm serving a life sentence, you know, and I

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Art Still: we've been married. My wife lives, and all. We've been married 41 years and all. But you know.

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Mark Entrekin: Congratulations.

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Art Still: You know you gotta have some fun with it, I said. After the 25th year.

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Art Still: Now she became instead of wife. She's my parole officer. So I tell people I'm serving a life sentence.

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Mark Entrekin: Serving a life sentence.

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Art Still: Nothing.

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Mark Entrekin: I love your attitude.

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Art Still: Oh, hey! You got, hey? You can't have a little fun in life. What's the point in living always? My father used to say that all the time, I mean, but you still got to keep it in the context. You know. Folks around is there's got to be up billing, so to speak.

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Mark Entrekin: Again. I like your attitude, your positive life. You had a very successful football career. It's impressive.

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Mark Entrekin: I'm it's just to see what you've done what you did for Kansas City chiefs in 10 years. The records you set that are still standing today.

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Art Still: You know, you bring up some points and all. And I, it's all part of that process. We talk about growing up and all not gonna always say

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Art Still: I had a mother, you know, a mother and a father. So that's how I got into this world. My mother and father probably didn't know that you probably thought I was a test Tube baby, but I'm not. But I had, you know my father was, you know, somewhat involved my mother. That was the mainstay of me, and she's the one

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Art Still: I owe.

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Art Still: and a lot of times, you know. I owe it all to her, and all as far as the direction and all. Not. She wasn't a perfect parent and all, but she did the best that she can with what she had, and again growing up in the family. I had 4 other brothers and 5 sisters, and we grew up in Camden, New Jersey.

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Art Still: in the project, so to speak, and all but again

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Art Still: her direction has got me where I'm at right now and then, you know. Then I look, you know, as the path that comes up to my age now and all. There's, you know, a bunch of individuals that had a big influence in my life that you know I contribute to to them, and at the same time, as they say, you know, paying it for trying to teach my kids and

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Art Still: those around me in the community, and all you know be, do positive things, you know, make a difference within our communities, and all.

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Mark Entrekin: Again. That's a great attitude. And you brought up your mom. And I was just looking over here because I thought I had seen this before, because, like you said, your mother was a big influence in your life.

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Mark Entrekin: and what was that she talked about? The only person that you can change is yourself.

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Art Still: Yeah. And you know, the funny thing about that is, and this is no lie, even when she's sleeping right now, and I'll get the opportunity of seeing her someday soon, and all. But the thing is even, you know, because when you get married and all, it's always.

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Art Still: you know, there's a bigger, you know, situation, you know, the wife and all, and I can remember, you know, calling her sometimes on. Hey, mom, my mom said, calling me art. My middle name is Barry, she used to always say, Barry, the only person you can change is yourself.

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Art Still: and you know, and that

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Art Still: you can't change nobody, but the only person you got to control is over yourself and all.

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Art Still: and sometimes it's hard, you know, you think, in control of folks. Then, you know, after 50, 60 years, you figure okay. I think she was right, you know something person. So I mean, but you never get too old to learn. And all. And so, you know, I try to pass it on, you know, like I said to my own kids, those around me.

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Art Still: And again.

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Art Still: I was pretty fortunate, and I always tell people, you know, and I don't get into the gender thing. But I just joke around about things and all, too. And this is just this is just ain't nothing.

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Art Still: But I always tell people my mother she was the 1st non-binary person around at all, because she was a woman.

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Art Still: but when we we had 5 boys of us and 4 of us about a year apart, we got in trouble. Man.

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Art Still: She knew how to handle the discipline, I mean she. But it was just one of those things where she was teaching us to be respectful, and I knew that was the our means at that particular time was getting us in the right direction. But she was a woman, but she beat us like a man. No.

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Mark Entrekin: You know I like how you guys do that, too, though, because that's 1 of the things

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Mark Entrekin: I am. I don't get into the political side either, and and on that, as I look at all, and they say, just say all genders. But

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Mark Entrekin: she did what she had to do, whatever it was, or it sounded like, anyway, that's why it just

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Mark Entrekin: be exciting. If I only get to talk to her someday, and maybe we'll all be up there together. Let's let's hope for that.

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Art Still: But see what?

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Art Still: Yeah, when she wakes up I'm gonna be right there hopefully. I'll be there right with her and all, too. Man.

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Mark Entrekin: Yeah, I thought, that's what I heard you say earlier. That's that's a beautiful, that's very beautiful.

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Art Still: Yeah, you know everything you do has.

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Art Still: you know, you got the negative and the positive, and that plus your environment, who you're around and people you you do and do things with, and all, too. But yeah, let's you know.

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Art Still: She's from Overland Park. I'm from Camden, New Jersey, lived in this project, and again

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Art Still: I look at my mother the same thing she used to tell us, you know. There's only one race, she said. You know there's different shades and all. But we all we all are, one and all, and it doesn't matter, and all, too, and actually said, You know you.

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Art Still: you go from one extreme to the other, but we all are from the human race. And so you know, with that said. But we all come from different environments, different cultures and all.

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Art Still: you know, different breed of folks, different shade of folks, a different culture and all, too.

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Art Still: So when we came together, we got married back in 1983. And it is, you know, you you gotta work marriages. I always tell people the hardest job there is is marriage, I mean, because there's constant adjustments and all you got to make.

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Art Still: And sometimes we come with preconceived ideals like myself, where you think, oh, this is how marriage is, how wife or this is how you're supposed to act.

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Art Still: you know we all different environments different, you know, mindset on things and all. Then you take in. We talk about gender. You know a woman is a little bit more emotional, a little bit more affectionate and all, and as as a male like myself and playing sports, we're about man. We just want to get to

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Art Still: the emotions are not there. So I think you know, over a period of time like I said, we've been married for about 41 years now.

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Art Still: and I got a life sentence. Let me add that to you. But, the thing is, there's been some adjustments, and and I'm finding out. And I think same thing with her that

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Art Still: No, no, no, but I mean, it's just one of those deals. And then now we dealing, we got

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Art Still: And then we got the 20. And you know, that's that's some working within itself, too, because you know the way we train and bring your kids up. She grew up in a different environment. I grew up. It was more so disciplined.

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Art Still: And, you know, trying to combine those together can can cause some problems. Because you know, as far as raising kids and as humans, we have the tendency, easiest way of doing things.

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Art Still: That's the way we want to go. Me. You know, it's almost like you're trying to teach to get discipline. My wife.

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Art Still: you know, if my kids would come up to me. Ask me a question, especially if it's in school and all. I used to point them over. I say, you see that dictionary? They asked me. Hey? What this word mean? I go over the dictionary. Look it up, man, you come back and tell me now my wife is complete. Opposite. She'll right off the top of me. She'll tell them her. And so and that's those are the conflicts sometimes you have, because now the kids man they know where to go. I'm gonna go to mine because I know I can get the answers from there

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Art Still: My wife. She grew up in a different environment, where it's a little bit more conversation and all. And so I see things happening. You know the kids conversating with her, and I think disrespectful, but

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Art Still: she looks at it otherwise. So you just gotta somehow, you know, mesh all those things together and

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Art Still: bite your tongue. No, understood.

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Art Still: Yeah, I mean, I mean, you know, because you know, I always think about you know, we we see all these commercials and all my one of my favorite commercials, the Progressive and Insurance one.

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Art Still: Don't be like your parents, you know the one way talk about.

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Art Still: and I catch myself like my mother.

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Art Still: even my father, those traits coming up, even though back in the day I thought they was kind of crazy.

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Mark Entrekin: Alright, that's a good point. I've noticed that, too. It was actually my

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Mark Entrekin: not following, or didn't think I was when he told me that a couple of decades ago. But I saw how many things I do follow

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Mark Entrekin: again. My mother was a great mother, very intelligent. My positive attitude, I think comes from her.

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Art Still: Oh, yeah. Well, you know you bring up a good point. I you know I kind of chuckle about this, too. I mean subconscious. My father in all. He was a hard worker, and all, too, but he loved, you know he took care of his grass, cutting grass and all that stuff.

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Art Still: And so, you know, I'm calling myself going to help him out one day and cut the grass for him, and he come running out, and, as I said, you know my name, they call me Barry. That's my middle name, Barry. My father comes out. Hey, Barry, man, no, no! Cut the grass this way and cut it this way. Start giving me these angles and all.

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Art Still: and he started cutting and all. I went out. Hey, offer, man, no! Cut the grass, and then I catch myself, man, that's exactly.

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Art Still: and I know he's probably thinking the same thing. Man, what's wrong with my father, man? So I'm just cutting grass, man, but you know it's just crazy, and all.

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Mark Entrekin: It's it's a lot. What are we doing here? Exactly.

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Mark Entrekin: Trace.

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Mark Entrekin: Yeah. Well, yeah, you know, as you mentioned that, I mean.

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Mark Entrekin: only we're not even quite halfway through the program yet. But if you don't mind art. I'm gonna hit you with the question that it may be a hard question, but I want I just kind of want to get it on the table.

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Mark Entrekin: You know.

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Mark Entrekin: Black.

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Mark Entrekin: I love. Black.

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Mark Entrekin: Black's a beautiful color, a lot of people we love black.

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Mark Entrekin: There's no doubt about it. It's 1 of the colors that have black suits. I've worn black tuxes.

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Mark Entrekin: I just it's it's a powerful color. It's it's a wow. But

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Mark Entrekin: you know what we could talk more about some of my past and some of the prejudices I've been through in the divorce court, and

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Mark Entrekin: I paid my child support. I paid my alimony. I wanted to see my children, but when I went into that courtroom

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Mark Entrekin: from that 8 to 5 Monday through Friday, I was prejudiced against as a deadbeat, Dad, just because I was in a courtroom.

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Art Still: Oh, I'm so busy.

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Art Still: But, Judge being in black, I wish I had that problem, too. No.

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Mark Entrekin: Well, that's another one. That's a good looking black suit that they wear.

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Mark Entrekin: like I saw my prejudices. I've got a lot of black friends, a lot of Hispanic friends, a lot of red, red, yellow, black, brown, and white.

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Mark Entrekin: my part of prejudice, but my prejudice was the rest of you like I said 8 to 5, 9 to 4 when I was in the courtroom. A lot of prejudice there.

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Mark Entrekin: Mine was short term.

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Art Still: Hey? I can, hey? I can give you good example. But obviously, when I was talking about my mother and all.

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Art Still: and my mother, you know all that black stuff, you know, came up back in the day, and I can remember she telling me, she said, put your hands up there. And then she had something was black. She said, you're not black.

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Art Still: How you get that? And I'm thinking to myself, man, how did I create this height and this size.

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Art Still: 7 by 6, 7 off by me. But you know it was just kind of funny. It was kind of reality check for me, too, because they asked me. And I'm thinking, like I created this this body, this look, this size, this shade of color.

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Art Still: you can be over in Iraq. You can be in Russia, you can be in China, whatever you don't have no control of where you came from.

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Art Still: Hey? You can pick out what shade of color you want.

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Art Still: What's your mother going to look like? How tall your father gonna be when you come into this world, man, that's what you got. You got to work at those genes and all within the family structure and all. So what makes us any better? Anybody else? And again, I believe you know, I believe

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Art Still: I believe there's creative, you know. Some people don't. But I believe there's I mean, you look around. It's nature and everything, the air, everything.

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Art Still: everything kind of works together, except sometimes, you know. Only thing that doesn't work together on this earth is man is trying overpower man. You can see it in politics, and all, too. But.

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Art Still: We're on this earth for a purpose, you know, and it's to, you know, to do the right thing, and all, too. And when you're doing the right thing, because we basically, when you look at the earth.

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Art Still: Now, what makes what makes the earth negative things on this earth? Is it the animal? Is it the trees? Is it the sun, the star anything like? No, it's

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Art Still: man that's just thinking strictly of himself trying. You know, there's exploitation, those types of things. And sometimes people think they're a little bit more powerful and smarter, and all, too. But

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Art Still: just as I stated, like in football, playing a game, raising a family, everybody has a place.

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Art Still: you know, just like, and I'll I'll use example, just like the chiefs and all we, you know, we now with sports, because people in sports, and you know, chiefs.

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Art Still: You know, they talk about Patrick Mahomes.

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Art Still: Oh, man, the greatest corporate. Yeah, he's a smart. I'm 1 of the probably a history.

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Art Still: And he's still got a little ways to go, and all, too. But as far as playing, thinking on his toes, playing being creative, and all

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Art Still: It's the people, the front 5 guys. If they ain't doing their job in front, or the receivers not catching the ball or not running right kind of patterns.

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Art Still: Now, how would he look? So? That's why, you know.

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Art Still: when and we're not perfect and all, we're gonna make mistakes. So when we recognize we make mistakes, then we can move on.

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Art Still: and we and again we won't make mistakes and all. But when everything is working together it's a beautiful thing, and all, too. So

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Mark Entrekin: building on what you're saying, because, like you said, you got the guards. You got the tackles. Everybody's got to do their job. The centers got to get the ball to the quarterback.

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Art Still: Yeah. I'm just.

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Mark Entrekin: Receivers.

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Art Still: You know, you're gonna have differences.

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Art Still: even though we are, there's no you know, everybody lives in a somewhat dysfunctional family, because we, you know, we make mistakes, and all, too. But at the same time that's where it comes into play sometimes it's because our pride, sometimes we only acknowledge that maybe we made a mistake. But that's just part of the learning process, the growing process that's going to take you to the next level, because now we see a lot of people nowadays.

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Art Still: And again, you know, I'm working on myself, and all, too, but tend to blame everybody else around them than looking at themselves and all.

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Art Still: And you know I can speak for myself, because that's the same thing. My parole officer. Live man, you know I'm I'm always man like.

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Art Still: instead of looking at myself. You know. What can I do, you know? And I catch myself. I still do it, you know that's going to happen throughout my life and all. But if you're aware of these things.

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Art Still: you're a little bit more conscious about those things, and then, if you do make a mistake.

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Art Still: she knows I you know. I'll go there, and I'll go tell her I'm probably, you know. Make sure I don't say it correctly, you know. Sorry, whatever. I apologize. Just simple things like that, you know. I apologize. No, they go a long ways.

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Mark Entrekin: Well, that's great, because again, you've got that great attitude. You talked about a few things before earlier with your mother, and it's like I'm a i'm a maybe I'm a darker white than some people think about when they look at that little sheet that we fill out for a job that says Race.

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Mark Entrekin: I like what you said the other day. Just put other human race.

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Art Still: Yeah, but that's I use. And I think people think, you know, if I'm doing something, people think I'm just trying to be smart, but I do.

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Art Still: I put on there, you know you fill out. You check it, you know I go down to other race. I got other, and then I put in human. And that's.

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Mark Entrekin: Gonna follow that. And I'm gonna give you credit for it. Art, that's.

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Art Still: No, no, hey! I'm at the charge before I got that patent.

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Mark Entrekin: Send me a bill, invoice.

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Mark Entrekin: Yeah, because, like you're saying, everybody has a little bit different color of their skin.

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Mark Entrekin: And I think I mentioned to you I lived last, a couple 2 h ago I lived in Mexico. Of course I love laying out the sun and getting a little bit darker.

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Mark Entrekin: and then people look at? Well, that's a good color, that's that's not a good color. Well, what makes a color good or not good. What? Who? Who put these rules together? All right.

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Art Still: Well, you know, hey? But you no, I didn't put the rules together. Don't put it on me.

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Mark Entrekin: No, I did not. I'm asking you who did, though.

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Art Still: Hey, Mark? But you know the funny thing, and I'll and I'll tell you.

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Art Still: You know there's always gonna be

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Art Still: in this system things we live in right now under, you know

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Art Still: you know all the things going on in this world, you know. Imperfect people. No, there's always going to be prejudice. You know the thing is, I grew up like I said. I grew up in Camden, New Jersey.

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Art Still: live in the projects.

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Art Still: and so, you know, it's all, and where we live. It was all blacks, blacks, and Puerto Ricans went to high school and all. So what happened was, you know.

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Art Still: and I lived in Roosevelt Manor. That was the name of projects I lived in. We had Branch Village and Fairview, and a couple other places, and all too, but even there, you know I was a we were a little lighter skin folks.

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Art Still: or and then you got real dark.

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Art Still: and there's you know. Then it's it's a little prejudice there, because people prejudge you in a situation like that.

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Art Still: even in our society and all.

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Art Still: if you're a little overweight, people look at you and prejudge you if they don't know your name. If you wear glasses.

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Art Still: if you you got pimples, or whatever I mean, it's just, you know we. It's a tendency of us to prejudge other and all, but always live by. I live by a model that I have on my email when I send out all the time

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Art Still: it's it talks about everyone we face is facing issues. We know nothing about it, you know.

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Art Still: Be kind, be patient, or you know it's just a matter of man. Recognize man putting yourself empathetic, putting yourself in people's position because things happen in our lives, we don't have no control over. It's just how we react to it.

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Mark Entrekin: I think you're making a good point there, too, because.

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Mark Entrekin: as I'll talk about in my speech when you see kids that are

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Mark Entrekin: just born even. They're like in a daycare

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Mark Entrekin: from the time they're just old enough to start playing with each other till they're 3, 2, 3, maybe 4. They play together. They don't even think about it. They don't think about any kind of challenges. Physical.

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Mark Entrekin: It's just how can we play together? How can we build together.

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Mark Entrekin: But we look at those same children once they're into school public schools, and how that perception changes.

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Mark Entrekin: and usually it doesn't change for the better. It's not an improvement.

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Mark Entrekin: It's a negative, because, like you said, I think there's counted up like 43 different identified prejudices

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Mark Entrekin: in this world.

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Mark Entrekin: anything from skin color gender to simple things as far as rate as far as salary as far, and of course, knowledge level. Your people are judged because

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Mark Entrekin: they may not see

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Mark Entrekin: something the way that you do. I may not see something the way that this other person does. You may not see the same things way I do, and we develop prejudices for that right.

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Art Still: Yeah. And then the thing is we

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Art Still: I was gonna say, you know, you think about it.

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Art Still: And like I said, I believe you know as a creator in in my life. Not, you know, and I truly believe that, and all, too, and we all hey.

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Art Still: that's the nice thing about there's nobody, you know. You might have, you know.

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Art Still: identical twins and all. But there's still difference in them. There's nobody per. I mean, there's nobody exactly, and that's the nice thing about it, because we have a variety just like you talk about a variety of different colors. Man we can draw with, or we can look and see that we can enjoy. And I see I have a different variety of, you know, personalities, you know our perspective, and that you know, when you put them all together, you can create just like colors or whatever

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Art Still: you can create different colors.

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Art Still: different ways of looking at things. And again, that's where you get different perspectives. And that's how we learn. We very all just thought the same way. Look the same way.

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Art Still: What kind of world do you think this would be

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Art Still: so, I mean, and that's that's, you know. That's the good thing, man, that you know, we have the different personalities, just a matter of learning how to work together, and all, too, and don't become caught up. Okay, this person don't look like me or act like me or not from my part of town. Don't talk like me, are they? From here and there.

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Mark Entrekin: So why does that make that bad? I'm I'm right with you. There aren't.

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Art Still: Yeah, we're not like each other, but.

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Mark Entrekin: Go ahead!

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Art Still: There we are, Mark Monkey, Mark, and the funky bunch. We we brothers from another mother.

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Mark Entrekin: We? We are, we are definitely brothers. What's your blood type? Mine's a positive.

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Art Still: Gotcha.

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Mark Entrekin: Years.

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Art Still: Mine is red when it gets exposed to.

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Mark Entrekin: We can say post auction. It's red. I like that.

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Art Still: Great energy.

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Art Still: It's blue inside, man, but once it hits the oxygen it turns red. We all, man, when you bleed you bleeding red, aren't you?

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Mark Entrekin: That's that is so. Well said.

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Art Still: Hey? You know, if you bleed, you bleed red jeez.

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Mark Entrekin: That's right.

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Art Still: No, I'm just joking.

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Mark Entrekin: And for Kansas City. Right?

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Mark Entrekin: How you doing this year? I tell you they're doing great.

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Art Still: Gotta get some brownie points out of that one man. So.

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Mark Entrekin: There you go there. They've learned from you. That's what they've done. They've learned from you. Alright.

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Art Still: I like to not take all that credit, man, but I think you're Mike. You're finally starting to make some sense to me.

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Mark Entrekin: You have a great attitude. Well, tell me something. Let's look at the other side of that

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Mark Entrekin: growing up like you said in the projects. Did you ever have

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Mark Entrekin: any disconnect with your black culture? Did you ever have any of your own thoughts of.

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Art Still: Negativity.

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Mark Entrekin: Positivity.

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Art Still: Well, you know, the thing is because I grew up doing that age and all, you know, black panthers and all. When all the racial stuff, the riots and all was going on.

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Art Still: And

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Art Still: I did. You know I'm from Camden, New Jersey I was playing on, and I tell you, you know, even happens within. You know, Camden, I went back my 1st year with the chiefs, and I bought a home, but it wasn't in Camden, Camden, you know, but we bought like in Cherry Hill, right outside. But my whole objective was to come back and work in Camden and work with kids and do things. But then I came back, and I can still remember this. This is back in probably

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Art Still: 79, or so.

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Art Still: and went up to City Hall, and I was talking to one of the councilmen, or whatever it just so happened. He was black, you know, so I was telling him about things I want to do come back in community, you know, and he made a statement. Why you want to question me why you want to come back here. In other words, if you gave your money, stay out, you know.

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Art Still: and that kind of put a bad taste in my mouth. And I I didn't. I wound up

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Art Still: moving back to Kansas City, and all because but at the time I should never

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Art Still: in my mind I should never let other people

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Art Still: change. You know the goal as far as doing something good back home.

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Art Still: And at that time I was just young. I said, well, I ain't coming back there, but he just represent one person and all. It wasn't about the people and all. And I just kind of, you know, at that time. So you yeah, you do you know, that was one of the negative things? But there's another great positive one. Until this day I could get him on right. I could call him up right now. But my 5th grade teacher, Steve coach

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Art Still: he was again. I hate using those terms, but he was white.

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Art Still: but he's the one that took me, and I remember I was telling you about. There's certain individuals, man, that where I'm at right now, and I tell him all the time I talk to him, you know, a couple of times a week every time we go up there and visit, we hang out, and all, too.

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Art Still: But he had a great influence. He's he used to come, and he lived out in the suburbs

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Art Still: secret. He used to come pick me up at my house.

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Art Still: and we used to take me, go play basketball, doing things, and expose me to different things, and always encouraging me to do the right thing.

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Art Still: and till this day like I said, I can call matter of fact, I need to probably call Steve today and all man, but

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Art Still: he's he's 1 of the big influences in my life, and all like I said in 5th grade. And

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Art Still: yeah, I owe him. And but I know he would say.

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Art Still: that's that's where you learn, and you pass it on. You know you, you learn things. And and you do. You reflect the positive people, and you, you pass it on. You know, kids and people. I mean.

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Art Still: I look at it in his.

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Mark Entrekin: You say.

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Art Still: Yeah.

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Mark Entrekin: Did you say? Pay it forward, or don't. Sorry to interrupt you, but I'm going about you mentioned that word earlier, I think. Pay it forward.

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Art Still: Pass it on, pass it on.

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Mark Entrekin: Pass it on. Okay.

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Art Still: But you just you know you go back like you remember me. I thought Mahomes attitude. You go back like that. Give him the fake

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Art Still: and then throw it the other way.

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Art Still: There you go! There you go.

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Art Still: bam, and get yourself another job. No, but no! But as I was saying

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Art Still: he till this day and all I mean just

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Art Still: it wasn't about shade of color. Nothing didn't have anything to do with shade of color at all. So

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Mark Entrekin: Yeah, I like that you're saying.

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Mark Entrekin: And you know

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Mark Entrekin: that's 1 of those things, too, is I hear you say that you've taught me a couple of things together today again, with the

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Mark Entrekin: just on on the race. Just human. I love that, and just to build even the blood type. No, my blood's red, that's and that's really all that matters.

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Mark Entrekin: And then when you say like, when somebody says they're white, well.

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Mark Entrekin: you consider yourself white, because that race that color that's just a social construct, isn't it? That's what somebody's gonna put in our.

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Art Still: It's it's something. It's man-made. Because if you think about it, and if, like, I said, you know, everybody's got there. But I believe there's a loving Creator

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Art Still: that created us.

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Art Still: and He created man. And you you think about you go to different parts of the country and all the world.

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Art Still: Everything is kind of acclimated to the area, and all too

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Art Still: shade of color and those types of things. And he created, if he, if we believe in creating. He created, you know.

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Art Still: graded 2 people.

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Art Still: and from that that's where we all come from. So we all hey? We all relate it one way or another.

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Art Still: That's why you're my brother from.

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Mark Entrekin: We are.

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Art Still: And I want to borrow a couple $1,000 next week. Brother, from another mother.

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Art Still: you ain't going for that one, huh?

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Art Still: Yeah. So I'm waiting for that $2,000 now.

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Mark Entrekin: Love that attitude. That's what.

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Mark Entrekin: How can how can we build on

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Mark Entrekin: how some ways that we can help more people grasp on to your attitude.

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Mark Entrekin: How can I told you I'm learning from you already.

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Mark Entrekin: We talked the other day. I'm talking to you today. How can we go ahead.

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Art Still: I didn't. You know all these things are learned things I learned from other folks, and all kind of combine them, and all, too. So it it goes back to

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Art Still: like I was telling you about. My mother said, only person you can change is yourself is how we look at things and all. And again.

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Art Still: you know, being that we're imperfect. And we do make mistakes, we gonna say and do things sometimes. But that's where you come back

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Art Still: and apologize. I mean, if we recognize, and all, too, or we've offend somebody. And I've been in spots and all, too, especially out in California. I was out there. We was doing some things doing some camps up northern part of California. I was in sprouts, you know, picking some food.

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Art Still: and I, you know I joke around a lot, and one person took it the wrong way.

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Mark Entrekin: You do.

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Art Still: They took it the wrong way and came back, and, you know, was saying something too, so you know I could have probably, you know, got upset. But I basically thought I said, Man, I apologize. I was just joking around how you know I had a situation where.

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Art Still: and my wife would tell you. My, my, I got a son. Luca lives with me now. He's in a motorcycle, wreck and all which kinda he was in a coma and all, but he was up in Lincoln, Nebraska, to

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Mark Entrekin: I'm sorry.

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Art Still: Madonna and all. It's for tbis, and all, too. But I went to this one because I'm in the Health Food Store. So I went in there, usually from the East coast. We always ask some people, you know. You say you got everything straight.

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Art Still: So when I went in there, and we. My wife is right there with me and all one guy working back there. And I'm you know I mess with people all the time, and I told. I said you got everything, everything. You got everything straight.

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Art Still: He took it the wrong way.

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Art Still: He thought that I was asking, seeing if he was straight, you know a few.

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Art Still: and it was kind of funny, because, you know, I'm trying, because he kept on. What do you mean?

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Art Still: I see you got everything straight.

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Art Still: and so he used to act a little funny, and all my wife would tell you so. A couple days later I went in. A manager called me from the store called me, hey, man, you offended one of our workers, and I'm trying to figure out a fan.

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Art Still: And then we sitting there talking.

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Art Still: Then I realized, okay, cause I said straight.

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Art Still: And so, and this is this is going back 1012 years ago. And so the thing is, I. Wanna you know I told, I explained to the man. I say, that's not what I'm not saying. When we're from the East coast. We always ask, and you got everything straight.

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Art Still: and it was just. But.

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Mark Entrekin: Mean in line. You get everything.

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Art Still: Yeah, got everything sorted.

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Mark Entrekin: Board.

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Art Still: Yeah, yeah, not not what your gender, or anything like that is.

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Art Still: And so

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Art Still: I you know, I catch myself and stuff. It was almost like. Sometimes you gotta watch what you say

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Art Still: cause people, you and they contended, but we live in a world man nowadays. You you almost gotta

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Art Still: man. You almost gotta be real ginger with your words and make sure you

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Art Still: and that takes all the fun out of living. You you living in that type of box where? Okay.

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Art Still: my mind. Okay, how should I say this now? Sometimes we should, you know, regroup how we say, but just joking around just having a good time not offending anybody but

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Art Still: Miss Cody, who you dealing with, and who you around to.

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Mark Entrekin: And like you said, we're not.

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Mark Entrekin: We're not offending, We're just funding being fun, we're just trying to be fun with life.

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Art Still: Yeah, you know I don't.

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Art Still: I don't call it, you know, you know. Yes, calling having fun, but I'm always looking. My wife would tell you the same thing if we go places, no matter any store, any place we go.

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Art Still: I tell Liz you know I'm I'm trying to get at least 3 friends that day.

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Art Still: So my goal is to make friends

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Art Still: and joking around a lot of time, because people so serious about things, you know, not offending people, but just joking around just mess with people

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Art Still: people are not. And and it's a shame because back in the day when we was growing up.

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Art Still: But you know, hey, people used to be able to talk on the streets, hang out

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Art Still: and joke and laugh. You don't see that too much nowadays, you know, because people are so

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Art Still: people, the politics and all that, and everybody. If you don't believe you can't know you stay over here, you stay over there, and that's when you talk about prejudice. That's the big prejudice man, you know, with the politics going on, I mean, back in the day, you know, even though you may have different beliefs politically, people got along, I mean, but times you live in

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Art Still: we don't.

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Mark Entrekin: I was on a conference call this morning, and I saw a name.

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Mark Entrekin: and the name to me was a feminine name.

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Mark Entrekin: and so the second time when I used the name the 1st time, and the second time I said she.

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Mark Entrekin: and then I thought, I have never heard the person talk.

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Mark Entrekin: I've never seen the person.

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Art Still: Well, that's a shake.

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Mark Entrekin: The virtual assistant for me, but I've never. It's all been virtual.

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Mark Entrekin: and I don't know that I did. I hope I didn't offend it, but I said something right away.

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Mark Entrekin: and I change it because I didn't know gender. Just use the name every time.

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Art Still: Yeah, yeah, you know, I laugh about that, because

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Art Still: you know, you can't laugh about those things nowadays. So I like to put a disclaimer on this, but you know it reminds me of that sticking show.

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Art Still: They still got the old ones now, but, like on Saturday live pat.

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Mark Entrekin: Yes.

489
00:47:58.580 --> 00:48:04.109
Art Still: Man. I laugh at that, I mean, but it's a shame we can't laugh at things, man, I mean, it's.

490
00:48:04.110 --> 00:48:05.160
Mark Entrekin: I know it's.

491
00:48:05.670 --> 00:48:06.129
Art Still: You know so.

492
00:48:06.130 --> 00:48:06.980
Mark Entrekin: It is we.

493
00:48:06.980 --> 00:48:09.879
Art Still: It's like making fun of people. So I mean.

494
00:48:10.490 --> 00:48:20.100
Mark Entrekin: And we're not meaning to. We're just trying to have fun with the way life is. And life goes on. And I tell people it's life. LIFE. Live it fully every day.

495
00:48:20.400 --> 00:48:23.299
Mark Entrekin: Let's have we. Only we're all gonna only be here for so long.

496
00:48:23.660 --> 00:48:25.250
Mark Entrekin: We don't know if we'll be here tomorrow.

497
00:48:25.590 --> 00:48:29.409
Art Still: Yeah, and I'm too legit to quit. No, I'm just joking, that's what I'm.

498
00:48:29.410 --> 00:48:36.830
Mark Entrekin: Too legit to quit. I'm gonna start calling you up more often. You give me a you give me a lot of good humor. Okay.

499
00:48:36.830 --> 00:48:37.210
Art Still: Bless you!

500
00:48:37.210 --> 00:48:38.730
Mark Entrekin: Into something. Go ahead.

501
00:48:39.100 --> 00:48:42.349
Art Still: No, no, go ahead, no, no! You better go and get into your programming.

502
00:48:43.112 --> 00:48:53.010
Mark Entrekin: Okay, yeah, we only have about what 11 min left. These go so fast. I I just enjoy it. But you have a still or live last name still, but you have it for live!

503
00:48:53.050 --> 00:48:54.899
Mark Entrekin: What are you doing? How's that going.

504
00:48:55.500 --> 00:49:08.380
Art Still: Well, you know, we started that, and and again we regrouping right now and all. And I think I talked to you about situation. You know things we don't have control over and all, and still for life. We started that off, you know, more so.

505
00:49:08.510 --> 00:49:16.009
Art Still: But and our catch. And again I didn't come up this and all to extending your shelf.

506
00:49:16.010 --> 00:49:18.039
Mark Entrekin: Credit until I find out otherwise.

507
00:49:18.040 --> 00:49:21.800
Art Still: Yeah. Okay. Well, you know, she's you know what happened was

508
00:49:22.210 --> 00:49:28.330
Art Still: a good friend. Now it's been a long time ago. He's no longer around his wife. Now, I mean one time.

509
00:49:28.420 --> 00:49:32.769
Art Still: Mr. Merle, I went to visit him. He lives in Hope, Missouri, in the backwoods.

510
00:49:33.140 --> 00:49:43.959
Art Still: So it just so happened. Mr. Holt wasn't in there. Hope was. Mr. Holt was about. No, not Mr. Hope, Mr. Merle his name. But the thing is, his wife was there that day.

511
00:49:44.150 --> 00:49:51.950
Art Still: and then we sitting there talking just for a second, and I was asking some things, and she used this term. I'm extending my shelf life.

512
00:49:52.520 --> 00:50:05.779
Art Still: and so that stayed in my mind. And so that's what you know. Still, for life, extending yourself life. So that's where we came up with still for life. And we were rooting the the website right now. But it was all about health.

513
00:50:06.090 --> 00:50:14.140
Art Still: you know. Exercise things that you're managing stress things that can help you extend yourself life.

514
00:50:14.270 --> 00:50:17.809
Art Still: So instead of making it 80 years old, you might be able to make it a 9,

515
00:50:17.920 --> 00:50:34.469
Art Still: 9,100, something like that. But but it was just more so on on doing things positive things within our community, and all, too. And then we also had a thing where we worked along with like foundations and charity groups and all, to doing some things trying to promote.

516
00:50:34.690 --> 00:50:37.289
Art Still: raise money, and all at the same time.

517
00:50:37.620 --> 00:50:38.300
Art Still: Oh.

518
00:50:39.190 --> 00:50:42.550
Mark Entrekin: That is excellent, and that whole the process.

519
00:50:42.620 --> 00:50:47.859
Mark Entrekin: and what I'm hearing there, art is where we, I think all of us

520
00:50:48.830 --> 00:50:53.430
Mark Entrekin: struggle a lot of times I was going back even to that word of straight.

521
00:50:53.490 --> 00:50:56.589
Mark Entrekin: We all have definitions of what we hear.

522
00:50:56.730 --> 00:51:00.370
Mark Entrekin: And you mentioned some things earlier about

523
00:51:00.400 --> 00:51:08.110
Mark Entrekin: people with a certain weight, and things like that, that we look at them differently, understanding sometimes.

524
00:51:08.340 --> 00:51:17.540
Mark Entrekin: or that definition of something as simple as eating, right and exercise and our understanding.

525
00:51:17.930 --> 00:51:22.790
Mark Entrekin: Our definition of that, I think, is different for everyone on this call I have.

526
00:51:22.790 --> 00:51:23.469
Art Still: Well, you know.

527
00:51:23.950 --> 00:51:24.330
Mark Entrekin: Go ahead!

528
00:51:24.330 --> 00:51:32.659
Art Still: I was. Gonna say, you know, even now I kind of regroup, you know somewhat, because, you know, we used to talk about words.

529
00:51:33.010 --> 00:51:37.070
Art Still: you know, if you put some words together, people can take it a couple ways.

530
00:51:37.140 --> 00:51:40.209
Art Still: and then, you know, and we said on the political side.

531
00:51:40.250 --> 00:51:43.529
Art Still: and then, even with that. Still for life.

532
00:51:43.790 --> 00:51:45.640
Art Still: you know, people might take that

533
00:51:45.790 --> 00:52:00.930
Art Still: in a political sense, but the sense that we was talking about living a healthy lifestyle. But you know that for life, you know, he got all these movements and all. And so if you put words together, people sometimes can have a preconceived ideal.

534
00:52:01.000 --> 00:52:07.910
Art Still: and you know my preconceived idea when put still for life is our health.

535
00:52:08.540 --> 00:52:15.489
Art Still: Some people might think it might have to do with birth, or something like that. So I mean, and that you know it's a shame you got to clarify things.

536
00:52:15.510 --> 00:52:20.830
Art Still: But that's why we added on to that catchphrase extending your shelf life so.

537
00:52:21.510 --> 00:52:27.120
Mark Entrekin: Yeah, I like that. That gives her that positive attitude that we all need

538
00:52:27.420 --> 00:52:32.569
Mark Entrekin: as a driver to go forward. And I I look for that? Is there something positive that

539
00:52:32.650 --> 00:52:41.500
Mark Entrekin: helps that shelf life? And again, being able to explain that to people I think is very powerful.

540
00:52:41.770 --> 00:52:48.239
Art Still: You know, I was gonna say, too, you know, and that you know that shelf life, you understand when I say shelf life.

541
00:52:48.270 --> 00:52:54.209
Art Still: you know, because a lot of people trying to figure. But it made a lot of sense, because usually, you know, you go in the store.

542
00:52:54.680 --> 00:52:59.659
Art Still: It's got a label on the back the shelf life if you gotta sell it by this time.

543
00:53:00.170 --> 00:53:02.969
Art Still: So and that's just like our health man sitting on a shelf.

544
00:53:03.220 --> 00:53:06.529
Art Still: So how can we get some more time on the shelf life?

545
00:53:06.770 --> 00:53:18.779
Art Still: And so that's, you know, coming up our shelf. Life is instead of expiring, you know. December 25, th 24. We can get some extension on that, maybe.

546
00:53:18.860 --> 00:53:26.840
Art Still: December 25, th 26, th or something like that. So you know how we take care of ourselves, how we deal with issues, and how we look at others, and all.

547
00:53:28.100 --> 00:53:34.329
Mark Entrekin: I'm still with you on that, because there's so much that we can do, and I know I want to exercise more. My

548
00:53:35.230 --> 00:53:45.410
Mark Entrekin: best female friend, my bff! The love of my life! She does a lot of work. She works out several days a week. She looks great. I'm almost jealous of her, and then what she does

549
00:53:45.770 --> 00:53:53.360
Mark Entrekin: I wish more. But oh, she's of course she's beautiful, and she likes me so she's pretty special.

550
00:53:53.800 --> 00:53:57.020
Mark Entrekin: but that ability to get him do things.

551
00:53:57.950 --> 00:53:58.359
Mark Entrekin: I'm sorry.

552
00:53:58.360 --> 00:54:03.790
Art Still: Yeah, I said. She probably wear glasses. Huh? Probably didn't have her glasses on that day. Huh?

553
00:54:03.790 --> 00:54:06.079
Mark Entrekin: The day she met me. I think you're right.

554
00:54:06.080 --> 00:54:06.510
Art Still: Office.

555
00:54:07.620 --> 00:54:09.300
Art Still: Got him.

556
00:54:09.300 --> 00:54:12.360
Mark Entrekin: Yeah, you do. You got me often. But yeah, that's.

557
00:54:12.360 --> 00:54:14.669
Art Still: Yeah, I was going.

558
00:54:16.500 --> 00:54:17.085
Mark Entrekin: Sorry.

559
00:54:18.390 --> 00:54:23.761
Art Still: No, no, I was gonna say, got him, you know, but I was gonna use that term. No.

560
00:54:24.471 --> 00:54:37.649
Mark Entrekin: But that's what we need to do. And we talk about definition. What is shelf life and what is exercise and what is eating? Right? Because that's different to so many people.

561
00:54:37.740 --> 00:54:41.340
Mark Entrekin: And then something else that I talk about is extremes.

562
00:54:41.550 --> 00:54:47.749
Mark Entrekin: because we talk about that Pareto principle, the 80 20 rule, where 20% of the people theoretically own 80% of the world.

563
00:54:47.880 --> 00:54:51.519
Mark Entrekin: we also have 20% of the world that's going to be extreme. Either way

564
00:54:51.760 --> 00:54:54.700
Mark Entrekin: we think about exercise and eating. Right? There's that

565
00:54:54.810 --> 00:55:00.070
Mark Entrekin: theoretical 20%. Sometimes it's 3%. And and sometimes it's 45%.

566
00:55:00.630 --> 00:55:03.670
Mark Entrekin: They don't know what eating right is, and

567
00:55:04.060 --> 00:55:07.060
Mark Entrekin: eating right to them is again like we talked about earlier.

568
00:55:07.820 --> 00:55:11.139
Art Still: But they learned when they were young. That's their culture.

569
00:55:11.210 --> 00:55:12.330
Mark Entrekin: That's the learning.

570
00:55:12.330 --> 00:55:14.169
Art Still: And then, yeah.

571
00:55:14.830 --> 00:55:20.330
Art Still: I was gonna say, Hey, you think about it? Mark is a lot of it's, you know.

572
00:55:20.840 --> 00:55:40.060
Art Still: we grew up. You know the food that we had my parents, at least my mother and all we we had. We was on welfare, and all, too, but at least used to have. Make sure you have starch, protein, vegetable, and all that kind of stuff. So we did have that, and a lot of stuff is taught in the home. But kids now, I mean nowadays, with all you know.

573
00:55:40.100 --> 00:55:46.070
Art Still: all these shortcuts of making food, you know, ultra processed food, and then the commercial.

574
00:55:46.070 --> 00:55:47.160
Mark Entrekin: Coming out of packages.

575
00:55:47.160 --> 00:55:47.840
Art Still: Thank you.

576
00:55:48.420 --> 00:55:52.340
Art Still: Yeah. And so you know, even with the commercial we have now. And you can.

577
00:55:52.460 --> 00:56:14.179
Art Still: You can get as big as you want man. Just take some some pharmaceutical drugs, and that'll help you get your weight down instead of man. That's where you learn discipline is when you learn how to control your body, what you eat and all. You know, it's much different than you know relying on, hey? I'm gonna take this pill over here, and I can, you know, because you hear people, too, man got maybe diabetes

578
00:56:14.660 --> 00:56:21.070
Art Still: and eating shit and all kinds off. But then they take their medicine to compensate. And I'm like.

579
00:56:21.490 --> 00:56:25.860
Art Still: Boy, that doesn't make any sense at all. Just common sense would tell you, you know.

580
00:56:25.960 --> 00:56:31.619
Art Still: if it's not good for you, why are you eating it, you can get rid of the pills and eat the right whole foods and all.

581
00:56:32.440 --> 00:56:53.520
Mark Entrekin: And you said a lot there, because that common sense and how much, how common is that sense anymore? We've got so much information come across at us a lot of it. Negative. What can we believe? What can we not believe? We've only got a couple of minutes left here? Art, thank you so much for being here. What can we, the audience? What can I do? What can we do to help

582
00:56:53.640 --> 00:56:55.060
Mark Entrekin: still for life?

583
00:56:55.160 --> 00:56:56.539
Mark Entrekin: How can we work together.

584
00:56:56.540 --> 00:57:00.747
Art Still: Oh, well, the thing is, I would say,

585
00:57:01.340 --> 00:57:04.889
Art Still: And I live by this model, too. I've seen it before.

586
00:57:05.284 --> 00:57:17.930
Art Still: It's a website. Random acts of kindness, or something like that. But I've seen I'm I'm you know, I forgot they call them. But the thing is, it was this this thing that that said it was a quote.

587
00:57:18.040 --> 00:57:19.730
Art Still: When you help others.

588
00:57:20.150 --> 00:57:24.469
Art Still: They say you help others, but I, using the term when you help others, you heal yourself.

589
00:57:24.670 --> 00:57:30.260
Art Still: And so to me, man, this being kind.

590
00:57:30.300 --> 00:57:36.969
Art Still: you know. And then, like I said before, you know, everybody we meet each day is facing issues. We don't know anything about.

591
00:57:37.500 --> 00:57:45.910
Art Still: Be kind, I mean real simple. Be patient and kind. And sometimes people can react the way. And I think it's how we respond that

592
00:57:46.250 --> 00:57:48.680
Art Still: can either, you know.

593
00:57:49.400 --> 00:57:57.780
Art Still: take that that relationship to another level. And people might regroup on themselves. And sometimes you just sometimes things happen. You just gotta know how to just

594
00:57:57.810 --> 00:58:04.220
Art Still: hey? Maybe people having problems just move on just like, you know, even with driving traffic and all that kind of stuff.

595
00:58:04.240 --> 00:58:09.529
Art Still: Man rage, you know, road rage and all that stuff. Everybody's got to be in place a certain time.

596
00:58:09.580 --> 00:58:20.430
Art Still: So you just just be a little bit more patient about things. And and that's something that we're going to be working on until we until we reach perfection, where we are doing the right thing.

597
00:58:21.170 --> 00:58:25.180
Mark Entrekin: Exactly, and that's what we've got to do. And that's why I want to continue working with you, Art.

598
00:58:25.200 --> 00:58:28.099
Mark Entrekin: and hope the audience does as well to reach out

599
00:58:28.260 --> 00:58:32.140
Mark Entrekin: and think about how well we can work with each other.

600
00:58:32.260 --> 00:58:39.030
Mark Entrekin: And if you don't mind repeating, let me just touch back on something you said earlier again, because it meant a lot to me

601
00:58:39.130 --> 00:58:44.360
Mark Entrekin: again when they ask for race, it's other. It's human.

602
00:58:44.500 --> 00:58:47.340
Mark Entrekin: because we're all part of that human race.

603
00:58:47.490 --> 00:58:50.019
Mark Entrekin: And if we can all work toward that.

604
00:58:50.310 --> 00:58:55.710
Mark Entrekin: let's eliminate those issues with someone's skin who's darker or lighter.

605
00:58:55.940 --> 00:59:00.850
Mark Entrekin: But let's start working together to realize that we are all one.

606
00:59:00.910 --> 00:59:04.830
Mark Entrekin: And then, if we can do what you're doing with your

607
00:59:05.180 --> 00:59:13.189
Mark Entrekin: still for life, with that improving our shelf life, if we can all help build a better life and do it

608
00:59:13.470 --> 00:59:16.970
Mark Entrekin: by achieving unity and working together right.

609
00:59:18.550 --> 00:59:23.470
Art Still: Oh, yeah, hey? That's that's that's the only way to go, man. I mean, if you wanna oh.

610
00:59:23.570 --> 00:59:29.559
Art Still: you want to make a difference, man. You gotta, you know. Just I always think about Michael Jackson. Remember that song you had.

611
00:59:30.560 --> 00:59:33.950
Art Still: you know, you know, you guys start with the man in the mirror.

612
00:59:34.170 --> 00:59:34.969
Art Still: So you look.

613
00:59:35.760 --> 00:59:47.649
Art Still: you can make changes yourself. You can. You might be able to force somebody, be a certain way, but you making them change because you're for the only person can change is yourself personally, though so.

614
00:59:47.650 --> 00:59:59.169
Mark Entrekin: That's right. That's where you start is in that mirror. So true, art. Thank you again. It's been a pleasure talking with you. Thank you for being on the show. Let's stay in touch. Hope to work with you, and if the audience wants to get in touch with you.

615
00:59:59.280 --> 01:00:03.159
Mark Entrekin: let's make it better for all of our lives.

616
01:00:03.410 --> 01:00:08.780
Mark Entrekin: Still for life. Art. Thank you again. It's been an awesome pleasure. We'll talk again soon.

617
01:00:08.780 --> 01:00:12.780
Art Still: Too late. I'm too legit to quit. No, I'm just saying.

618
01:00:12.780 --> 01:00:15.229
Mark Entrekin: Just to quit. I'm gonna remember that.

619
01:00:15.230 --> 01:00:24.000
Art Still: I enjoy anything I can do, any anything I can do for you and the audience and all, man. Please feel free to reach out, and all too.

620
01:00:24.550 --> 01:00:27.419
Mark Entrekin: Sounds great. Art again. Thank you much. Enjoy your day.

621
01:00:27.420 --> 01:00:27.840
Art Still: Thank you.

622
01:00:27.840 --> 01:00:29.990
Mark Entrekin: Holidays, bye, bye.

623
01:00:29.990 --> 01:00:31.910
Art Still: Okay, talk to you later. Okay? Fine.

624
01:00:31.910 --> 01:00:32.830
Mark Entrekin: Talk to you later.

Episode 13: Art Still

Guest: Art Still

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