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Mark Entrekin: Okay, we are recording. Hello, everyone, and welcome to the achieving unity success formula. Glad you all made it here today. Looks like we've had some technical difficulties and people not able to get onto the call.
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Mark Entrekin: That's 1 of the things that we did talk about. I'm not going to go back to my powerpoint slides today because we're short on time. We're already 20 min into the
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Mark Entrekin: podcast and we want to get into talking to Annette as soon as possible.
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Mark Entrekin: and tell her. Let her tell us a little bit about her, what she's doing, how she's doing in life, and how she's helping each and every one of us
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Mark Entrekin: cause we want to do the best we can with our time today. So, Annette, how are you.
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Annette Evans Wilson: I'm just fine, and thank you for having me today. Here.
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Mark Entrekin: That's my pleasure. I am so sorry about this.
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Mark Entrekin: I don't know what the happened, as far as when I joined the 1st time. I think it took me to a different meeting.
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Annette Evans Wilson: Oh, man!
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Mark Entrekin: Take me to an older meeting or something, because
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Mark Entrekin: I was there, and luckily, thanks to Jamie, who's on the call, she sent me a text and told me that she couldn't get in because there's another meeting on.
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Mark Entrekin: So there was some kind of confusion in the process. But enough of that I am so glad you're here. We have pleasure talking with you
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Mark Entrekin: so glad you had the time today.
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Mark Entrekin: So if you would let me know a bit more about you and your journey. It's it's incredibly expiring, inspiring. Now that we get the chance to go back and give your full introduction. But
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Mark Entrekin: tell us about overcoming the challenges to mentoring a female college football coach.
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Mark Entrekin: Wow! What a challenge from where you were to doing that! And maybe you could share a pivotal moment that kind of shaped your. Maybe I can't, but I will. Philosophy.
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Annette Evans Wilson: Okay.
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Mark Entrekin: Annette Wilson, please.
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Annette Evans Wilson: Well, growing up, I grew up in a you can't atmosphere, no matter what it was that I wanted to do, or or decided I was going to do, or whatever I was told you can't.
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Annette Evans Wilson: You can't, because you're not smart enough, or you're not big enough, or you're not tall enough, or you're not strong enough, or whatever it didn't really matter if I wanted to do it. I was told you can't.
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Annette Evans Wilson: And so I just grew up with that kind of mentality for myself that I could not achieve at anything. I was never going to be good enough. I was never going to be able to do anything.
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Annette Evans Wilson: and sure enough, aside from actually graduating from high school, I certainly could have done better, but at least I graduated.
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Annette Evans Wilson: I never did reach the potential that I could have done at that point. I wanted to be an English teacher, but of course I couldn't, because I was told I couldn't
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Annette Evans Wilson: I ended up getting married, and was told I would fail at that, too. And I did. I had. I had 2 little boys.
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Annette Evans Wilson: and I decided I was not going to fail at that.
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Annette Evans Wilson: I was. That was something that I was not going to fail at
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Annette Evans Wilson: I was told I would.
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Annette Evans Wilson: I was told I was never going to be successful at raising those boys, but I was going to do that. I was going to be successful with them. And so I went, and I enrolled at the college before I told anybody I was going to do it, because I was afraid that if I told anybody I was going to go to college they would convince me that I couldn't do it.
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Annette Evans Wilson: and sure enough, as soon as I said that I was going to do that, or that I had done that.
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Annette Evans Wilson: They laughed at me, and they said, You can't do that.
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Annette Evans Wilson: You're not smart enough to do that. Now with 2 kids, how do you think you're going to do that? You you have. You know you're working there. You are at Del Taco working. And and you're raising kids. And you know, all you all you have is this little high school education. And how are you going to do something like that.
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Annette Evans Wilson: and I looked at them, and I said, Well, you know what, maybe I can't, but I will.
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Mark Entrekin: Beautiful.
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Annette Evans Wilson: And they looked at me and just laughed, and they said, Well, fine, you know. Go ahead, if you think you can do that. But you know all you have to do is just pass.
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Annette Evans Wilson: You don't have to get good grades. You don't have to get honors or straight A's, or anything like that. All you have to do is pass.
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Annette Evans Wilson: And you know, I said, I'm going to become an English teacher. That's something I've always wanted to do. And if I'm going to raise these kids, I have to be able to to do something. You know, I have to be able to to support them
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Annette Evans Wilson: and like you're never gonna be successful. You're never gonna be able to do that. And I said, Well, maybe I can't. But I will. And again they said, well, all you have to do is just pass.
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Annette Evans Wilson: You don't have to get honors or anything like that. And I says, Well, maybe I can't, but I will, and I was the 1st one in my family to graduate with honors.
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Mark Entrekin: Congratulations! Wow!
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Annette Evans Wilson: And then I was hired at San Bernardino High School. Talk about Inner city. If you think of the stereotypical inner City High School gangs and the whole business.
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Annette Evans Wilson: Well, you can imagine what they said about that.
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Annette Evans Wilson: You can't do that. They're going to chew you up and spit you out. There's no way you can do that, you know. By this time I was nearing middle age. I was in my thirties and middle aged white woman there, in that in that school there's no way you're going to make it there. And I looked at them, and I said, Oh, maybe I can't, but I will. That was the best 20 years of my life.
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Annette Evans Wilson: I absolutely loved it there. And you know what I taught those kids.
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Annette Evans Wilson: I was told that all they needed was somebody to tell them that they can.
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Annette Evans Wilson: And I said, Are you kidding me? They've been told they can't by the people most important in their lives. They're not going to listen to me. Come and tell them that they can. That's not going to work.
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Annette Evans Wilson: I said, but I'm going to tell him something different.
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Annette Evans Wilson: And I did.
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Annette Evans Wilson: And I said, You know what? When people tell you you can't, you just look them in the eye.
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Annette Evans Wilson: and you say maybe I can't, but I will.
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Mark Entrekin: That is beautiful, and I have chills listening to you. Please continue.
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Annette Evans Wilson: Out of that came Jasmine.
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Annette Evans Wilson: She wanted to play football with the boys.
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Annette Evans Wilson: That was back when girls didn't do that.
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Annette Evans Wilson: That was that was a little while ago. She was a freshman.
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Annette Evans Wilson: and you know what she was the 1st one to play football with the boys in high school.
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Mark Entrekin: Wow!
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Annette Evans Wilson: And last year she was hired
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Annette Evans Wilson: as the 1st female head coach of a college football team.
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Annette Evans Wilson: Since then she's gone on to finish her master's degree at college, so that she can be a sports broadcaster, because that's what she really wants to do.
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Annette Evans Wilson: But she reached that other milestone that was last year.
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Annette Evans Wilson: This year Victoria is in her 1st year of teaching English.
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Annette Evans Wilson: She not only graduated high school as the 1st one in her entire family to graduate high school, but she graduated college with a bachelor's degree and a Master's degree and a teaching credential and is teaching English.
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Annette Evans Wilson: And then there's Christian who's currently working on his back on on his Phd, so these are kids who
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Annette Evans Wilson: 1st ones in their family, not only to graduate high school.
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Annette Evans Wilson: but to move on to achieve these goals, because
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Annette Evans Wilson: even though people said, maybe you can't, they said, but I will.
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Annette Evans Wilson: And they did.
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Annette Evans Wilson: And there's I mean, there's a lot of other stories. So of course, those are just 3.
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Annette Evans Wilson: But but that's what that's what our model is that you live skills and leadership.
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Annette Evans Wilson: It's maybe I can't, but I will, because, you know, there is that you have to acknowledge
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Annette Evans Wilson: fine. Maybe I can't. But that's not gonna stop me.
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Annette Evans Wilson: There's always that possibility that I'm going to fail. But that's not going to stop me. That's what has stopped too many people. The possibility that they might fail.
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Annette Evans Wilson: I might fail. So I'm not going to do it. I'm not going to try.
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Annette Evans Wilson: We can't let that stop us.
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Annette Evans Wilson: Maybe I can't.
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Annette Evans Wilson: But I'm still gonna get myself in there, and I'm still gonna try, because you know what.
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Annette Evans Wilson: If I try, I will maybe not the 1st time, maybe not the second time. But I will.
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Mark Entrekin: And that's situations, too. And I love your story. That is what we all need to hear, and that's
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Mark Entrekin: bringing us down is so many ways because of culture, what you mentioned earlier, even if people try, and
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Mark Entrekin: they may not make the highest goal.
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Mark Entrekin: But they still made a higher goal.
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Annette Evans Wilson: Absolutely.
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Mark Entrekin: Because they're getting to that level
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Mark Entrekin: and higher and higher, and if they don't make it to that highest, they can still try again.
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Annette Evans Wilson: Obviously get.
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Mark Entrekin: To a certain level they get so far, and then
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Mark Entrekin: they can do the next step, and the next step.
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Annette Evans Wilson: Absolutely.
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Mark Entrekin: And.
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Annette Evans Wilson: Maybe they found out what didn't work, and so they can try something else.
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Mark Entrekin: And touching back on what you're saying about people telling you that you can't do that
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Mark Entrekin: is that a culture? Is that a learning of from the people that are saying that.
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Annette Evans Wilson: Oh, yeah, yeah, it is in in a lot of in in some cultures.
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Annette Evans Wilson: You've got parents who are seeing their kids get smarter than them.
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Mark Entrekin: Oh, I thought about that.
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Annette Evans Wilson: And then they're afraid they won't respect me.
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Annette Evans Wilson: And so there's there's that aspect of it.
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Annette Evans Wilson: But then there's even more the aspect from society.
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Annette Evans Wilson: You can't do that because of your skin color.
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Annette Evans Wilson: You can't do that because of the neighborhood you live in.
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Annette Evans Wilson: You can't do that because of the school you went to.
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Annette Evans Wilson: You can't do that because because you're here illegally.
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Annette Evans Wilson: Your parents brought you here when you were 2 years old.
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Annette Evans Wilson: Who cares that you've been here for 16 years of your life.
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Annette Evans Wilson: You can't do it.
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Annette Evans Wilson: So they've grown up with this mentality of you can't.
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Annette Evans Wilson: That's just how they've grown up.
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Annette Evans Wilson: They don't know any other way.
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Annette Evans Wilson: If nobody's told, there is another way.
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Mark Entrekin: And as you're saying, there's people who, just because of how they were raised.
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Mark Entrekin: their culture, their learning, they don't know any better. And that's what we.
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Mark Entrekin: That's where I see most of the struggles in my coaching people that once they have that mindset.
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Mark Entrekin: they don't feel they can remove themselves from that, because
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Mark Entrekin: looking at you and it again, it gives me an awe to see what you have done after being told. No, all this time
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Mark Entrekin: you said, yes, I can. That moving that forward which too many of us and I've been there also.
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Mark Entrekin: We just think that. Oh, I can't do that, and we don't try.
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Mark Entrekin: But you bringing out that process, that statement that quote.
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Annette Evans Wilson: - will. I will try.
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Mark Entrekin: And it.
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Mark Entrekin: For whatever reason it may have been there yesterday.
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Mark Entrekin: we can take that reason away for tomorrow and grow that forward right.
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Annette Evans Wilson: Well, you have to put. You have to find a different place in the brain that hasn't been filled up with can't
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Annette Evans Wilson: because can't is already lodged in there.
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Annette Evans Wilson: I mean, it's it's got its place in there, and it's firm, and it's lodged.
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Annette Evans Wilson: But will it still can find a place.
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Mark Entrekin: Can the will override part of the brain as you're talking about? Because just because that can't, is there?
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Mark Entrekin: It could be a Kent was there.
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Mark Entrekin: and that will can replace it.
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Annette Evans Wilson: Absolutely, absolutely, if you have more success, using the will.
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Annette Evans Wilson: in other words, but I will, and then it happens, and I will, and then it happens, and I will. Then that will keeps growing.
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Annette Evans Wilson: and it gets bigger.
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Annette Evans Wilson: and and it it overrides all of those times. But you go back and you say, what were the things that I couldn't do?
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Annette Evans Wilson: Well, you said I couldn't teach English, but I did. So that doesn't count anymore.
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Annette Evans Wilson: You said I couldn't be successful at marriage. Well, I've been married now for 28 years.
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Mark Entrekin: Congratulations. That's awesome.
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Annette Evans Wilson: That you know that one doesn't count anymore.
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Mark Entrekin: You said I wouldn't be successful at parenting while I've got these 2 amazing young men.
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Annette Evans Wilson: Well, I guess that one doesn't count anymore.
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Annette Evans Wilson: And so you start to see these things that you said, well, I will. And I did.
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Annette Evans Wilson: And they're the things that you said I couldn't. So those don't count anymore.
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Annette Evans Wilson: So yeah, definitely.
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Mark Entrekin: And in those cases do they come up with something else that okay, you did that. But you can't do this. You can't do the next step. You can't do.
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Annette Evans Wilson: That's a funny one.
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Annette Evans Wilson: When I retired, and I started this nonprofit
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Annette Evans Wilson: and my sisters and my brother, they wanted to know why I was doing it, and what I expected to get out of it. And oh, they just had all kinds of questions about, you know. How was I? Gonna how were we gonna afford doing something like that with retirement? And just very negative, very negative.
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Annette Evans Wilson: And I said, Well, you know what? It's not really about money it's about. This is something we feel called to do. And this is something that we are doing, because
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Annette Evans Wilson: it's it's important to us.
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Annette Evans Wilson: And my sister said, Oh, so it's your little retirement project.
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Annette Evans Wilson: And I said, Sure, we'll go with that.
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Mark Entrekin: We'll go with that.
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Mark Entrekin: And sometimes that is, you just want to say, well, whatever makes you happy.
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Annette Evans Wilson: Right right like.
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Mark Entrekin: Not gonna let.
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Annette Evans Wilson: Tanzania. And then, when we've been invited back and and with when we've had the progress that we've had, and we had done the things that we've done. Of course they have.
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Annette Evans Wilson: They've changed their tune a bit, but you know it's just easier sometimes to let them call it what they will.
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Mark Entrekin: And it's exciting, too, Annette. It's it's a pleasure. And then it is a
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Mark Entrekin: exciting feeling to know you and to see what you've done.
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Mark Entrekin: And it it kind of brings out. I think more of the people that you're around because you didn't let someone else
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Mark Entrekin: slow you down or pull you down. You just said, Okay.
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Mark Entrekin: I see what you're saying, but that may be for you.
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Mark Entrekin: but that's not for me. And you have truly taken that, and to another level.
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Mark Entrekin: Well, tell me more what inspired you to transition from the teaching, as you were saying.
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Mark Entrekin: to founding the You life skills and that Leadership Educational Foundation.
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Mark Entrekin: Where was the inspiration for that.
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Annette Evans Wilson: Well, a couple of things did that. 1st of all, I had a principal at the school that allowed us as teachers
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Annette Evans Wilson: to teach what we knew was working rather than saying, as long as we did the standards. Okay, we had to teach the required standards, obviously, but we could bring in the stories that we wanted. We could bring in the the materials that taught the standards.
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Annette Evans Wilson: And one thing that I had learned through a conference that I went to is, do what you love in the service of people who love what you do.
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Annette Evans Wilson: Well, I loved teaching English, and I loved teaching teenagers.
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Annette Evans Wilson: but teenagers didn't love learning English.
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Annette Evans Wilson: so we had a little disconnect there. We had a little problem.
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Annette Evans Wilson: and so I had to find some way to make teenagers love learning English.
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Annette Evans Wilson: and the only way to do that was to find out what teenagers love.
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Annette Evans Wilson: Oh, we? We did all of the English
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Mark Entrekin: Tell me about the the mask that you wear. Help me with the audience. You talk about wearing a mask. What does that mean?
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Annette Evans Wilson: Okay? Well, when we when we read dressing up for the Carnival.
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Annette Evans Wilson: a carnival is, you know, a place that you go to go on rides and all that kind of stuff. But then, as they read it, all of these people were really dressing up to go out
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Annette Evans Wilson: Just different. You know different aspects of us, and we talked about. Are there masks that we wear because we have to wear them because they protect us?
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Annette Evans Wilson: So do we. Do. We wear masks because we want to try to be like someone else, you know. Do we do, we lose our authenticity in trying to become like somebody else.
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Annette Evans Wilson: And so that, you know, there was this analysis going on, I mean deep analysis of the story.
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Mark Entrekin: Very.
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Mark Entrekin: That's very interesting. And as you were talking about that.
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Annette Evans Wilson: Absolutely, absolutely, and it changes our authenticity.
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Mark Entrekin: I love what you're talking about, because I do this, some with relationships, and how people have
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Mark Entrekin: and I think all of us, I should say all of us. A lot of us have been through marriages that have failed. I don't think it was your fault, though, Annette. I'm going to bet that it wasn't.
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Annette Evans Wilson: Right? Well, one thing that this has done is adults. Well, I I took this into the pandemic
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Annette Evans Wilson: and it was really funny, because during the pandemic, most of the kids I don't know how much you heard about students during the pandemic. Most of them did nothing.
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Annette Evans Wilson: Okay, that learning stopped during the pandemic. Not for my kids. I'm very proud of it because they were interested in what they were doing. My students kept learning.
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Annette Evans Wilson: And that's when I decided to retire afterwards, because I only had one year of teaching left, anyway. So I thought, rather than go back to the classroom, I was going to retire and take this out to the world.
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Annette Evans Wilson: Okay, take this out to others.
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Annette Evans Wilson: But you know what adults started asking for a program.
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Annette Evans Wilson: Yeah, but they they needed something a little different than what the kids were getting. And so what I started was a know yourself program.
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Annette Evans Wilson: It's it's a 3 part program. And what we use. And this is what you were kind of talking about.
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Annette Evans Wilson: Okay, can you kind of see that it's it's like a target. It's it's it, you know. If you were, if you were playing darts.
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Annette Evans Wilson: That's what you're talking about, how everything that has happened to us throughout our life
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Annette Evans Wilson: And one thing, the 1st thing that we do is we try to identify. We try to become authentic, based on our peripheral identity. And that's what that's what my 1st book is about. It's called, Know yourself how to enjoy an authentic life. It's available on Amazon.
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Annette Evans Wilson: and it's how to enjoy an authentic life based on your peripheral identity. Even though you have all of these other things
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Annette Evans Wilson: And then you get the second part here, which is the second ring in the middle, where you're getting closer to the center, which is really where you want to be. If you're playing darts right.
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Annette Evans Wilson: and that's where you get your personality.
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Annette Evans Wilson: That's a little closer to the center, and we use taking flight with disk.
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Annette Evans Wilson: Oh, you think of the personality of an owl.
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Annette Evans Wilson: Yeah, exactly. Yeah. I mean, think, think of an app. Think of a think of an eagle.
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Annette Evans Wilson: An eagle is going to go for what he wants. Okay, he knows what he wants. He's going to go get it. That's just what an eagle does.
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Annette Evans Wilson: doves are sensitive, and they're caring. And they're loving and all that kind of stuff. These are just things we think of when we think of those birds. Well, that's what we do. We do a personality analysis. And and you're not just one of them. You're a combination.
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Annette Evans Wilson: Okay? And so based on that, we now say, let's look at your authenticity. How authentic are you to your personality? But
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Annette Evans Wilson: That. And that's that's what we we learn how to be authentic at all times. And we can.
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Annette Evans Wilson: What do you? What do you think's happened? What is that parrot doing.
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Mark Entrekin: It's running around, not knowing where to go, what to do.
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Mark Entrekin: I'm talking the whole time.
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Annette Evans Wilson: Talking the whole time to to this one and to this one. And to this, I just yeah, exactly. That's exactly what's going on.
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Annette Evans Wilson: Wonderful. Oh, gosh!
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Annette Evans Wilson: You know I've already taught it at that point. That's why he's running around is because he already knows it. He doesn't have any reason to sit down.
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Annette Evans Wilson: He knows all the stuff, you know, and and what he doesn't know he'll fake, and then I can come in and say, Well, you know, because he doesn't. He doesn't want to get it wrong, because that would be embarrassing.
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Annette Evans Wilson: you know it would be embarrassing if he gets it wrong. So he's gonna make sure he's looking over at me and all that to get the stuff right. And so we can work together to teach the class.
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Mark Entrekin: Interesting. I've got a couple of questions here. If you don't mind, we'll step back just a minute. So I'm gonna come back into where we are right now. 1st off you mentioned disk. That's the DISC. Right.
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Mark Entrekin: I know we want to talk a little about what disk is, or make sure everybody on the call knows.
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Annette Evans Wilson: Disc is a personality profile. It's been out for a long time like since the thirties.
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Annette Evans Wilson: And if you just use those, basically, you do your personality profile. And you tell everybody, oh, gee! You're a d.
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Annette Evans Wilson: Or Oh, you're an eye, you know. Just like all personality profiles. You get a letter, or you get a you know you get some designation as to what you are, that you know what what your personality style is.
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Annette Evans Wilson: and just like all of the others, you finish the you finish the workshop, and you forget about it.
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Annette Evans Wilson: Because who's going to remember that you're a date, you know. You don't remember that kind of thing. And so Merrick Rosenberg
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Annette Evans Wilson: And so he said, what is a dominant bird when you think of a really dominant bird. What bird do you think of which one comes to mind?
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Annette Evans Wilson: that you know we got dominance there we got a dominant bird, okay? And you think of which bird is interactive, which bird is the one that's going to meet those qualifications for being that interactive bird? We got the parrot. And where is our sympathetic bird?
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Annette Evans Wilson: Well, we got the dove. Okay. I mean, that's just stereotypical, sympathetic.
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Annette Evans Wilson: But see, we also we have some little birds. I don't know if you can see them in the back there a little bit. They're kind of small.
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Annette Evans Wilson: Yeah, so so you can, you can actually get some little stand up birds or you can. You know, we have little keychains, or we've got all of these little things that that can help remind
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Annette Evans Wilson: and then we can not only do that, but when it comes to conflict management.
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Annette Evans Wilson: Well, here's how it goes. When somebody gives up. Okay, this is conflict. Right?
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Annette Evans Wilson: Well, somebody has to give up.
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Annette Evans Wilson: Well, this is what happens when somebody gives up.
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Annette Evans Wilson: They're back here. But have they really given up.
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Annette Evans Wilson: No, they're just waiting. They're just waiting because they're still still ready to strike. And then people wonder what happened?
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Annette Evans Wilson: Well, they haven't, really. I mean, they're still there.
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Annette Evans Wilson: the other way is. Well, let's agree to disagree.
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Annette Evans Wilson: Well, that's agree to disagree. And what happens when you agree to disagree.
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Annette Evans Wilson: We don't do that.
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Annette Evans Wilson: Okay, we say, wow, that eagle has some really great ideas.
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Annette Evans Wilson: Okay, I'm a dove.
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Annette Evans Wilson: I've got some really good ideas, you know what?
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Annette Evans Wilson: Because I'm a dove, and I have some really, really good ideas.
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Annette Evans Wilson: and the eagle has some really, really good ideas, and we're so different. What are some things that we can do
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Annette Evans Wilson: How can we work together?
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Annette Evans Wilson: And so that's how we do the conflict management.
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Mark Entrekin: I like that concept and how you're working on that. And you answered the other question I was gonna ask about you mentioned the
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Mark Entrekin: owl, and the the parrot and eagle? And did you have a or do you have a test? Questions that people answer to calculate.
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Annette Evans Wilson: Yes.
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Mark Entrekin: These, okay.
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Annette Evans Wilson: Yeah, yeah, it's we we actually sell the profile itself for $50. But
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Annette Evans Wilson: it doesn't you know, yeah, you can just get the profile and and get the answer. But that doesn't really mean anything. What I prefer is for people to actually come to one of my programs.
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Annette Evans Wilson: We, one of them that we do have actually starting on. It's starting March 13.th And then we have it for 6 weeks. And then it's off for 6 weeks and then on for 6 weeks. So it's it's off and on for for 6 weeks, and that's a 6 week building bridges of communication program.
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Annette Evans Wilson: And you can find that out on my website www, dot YOU. lsl.org.
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Mark Entrekin: I did put that into the chat once I was doing earlier. You may have seen me looking off, and that's what I did. I put your.
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Annette Evans Wilson: Oh, okay.
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Mark Entrekin: Into the chat. So everybody has it.
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Annette Evans Wilson: Yeah, that's it's it's 249 for the entire program. And if you have additional people in your family it's $100 for each additional person. So the family plan actually is pretty cheap to get the whole family in, and that includes the the $50 profile for each person.
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Annette Evans Wilson: Also. So it actually ends up being a pretty good deal for a 6 week program. You get real life scenarios every week.
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Annette Evans Wilson: So you're actually practicing. And if you have your own scenario like, let's say, Oh, this week this is something that happened, and I just didn't know what to do about it. What can we do?
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Annette Evans Wilson: We can work on that.
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Annette Evans Wilson: So I mean, if there are, if nobody has a real life scenario, I've got my own. I've got plenty. So scenarios that are not only family based, but work based or just life based.
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Annette Evans Wilson: So how to how to deal with different personality, based situations.
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Mark Entrekin: And I think you said it's 6 weeks.
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Annette Evans Wilson: It's a 6 week course. The 1st one starts March 13.th
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Mark Entrekin: How many hours per week.
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Annette Evans Wilson: It's 1 and a half hours. It's it's it's on
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Annette Evans Wilson: on Thursdays. So it's it's every Thursday, starting March 13, th at 6 30.
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Annette Evans Wilson: It's a live course. And it's online.
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Mark Entrekin: Online, but it's live. You were talking to them on.
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Annette Evans Wilson: Yeah, it is. Live. I'm yeah. I'm talking to them right.
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Mark Entrekin: Great. That's like a wonderful program. All right. Now, if you don't mind, since you answered those 2 questions so well.
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Mark Entrekin: let me take you back to
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Mark Entrekin: think it was the parent that you had in the classroom teaching the classroom.
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Mark Entrekin: Did I get that right?
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Annette Evans Wilson: Oh, no, that no, that was a student.
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Mark Entrekin: Right. No, I mean. But he was the student.
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Annette Evans Wilson: The parrot. Yes, yes, that was a parrot.
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Mark Entrekin: How did the rest of the students? And how do you work with those situations where you have a student?
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Mark Entrekin: Maybe the the parent mentality.
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Mark Entrekin: and then you do have some eagles out in your audience, or maybe some owls out in the audience. How do you work those situations.
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Annette Evans Wilson: Okay, that's good. Eagles get in, get out. They want it done fast.
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Annette Evans Wilson: They don't want a ton of explanations.
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Annette Evans Wilson: Basically with an Eagle. They want to be the boss.
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Annette Evans Wilson: They're very dominant, and what's often going to happen with them is
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Annette Evans Wilson: if they if you're having, if you're having an issue with with an eagle.
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Annette Evans Wilson: And you're a dove, for example. Okay, when I had an issue with an eagle, it was generally the eagle wanted
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Annette Evans Wilson: They wanted to prove to me that they were boss.
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Annette Evans Wilson: Okay. They wanted to make a statement is what they were trying to do.
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Annette Evans Wilson: Best thing to do with them is give them some type of responsibility.
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Annette Evans Wilson: It doesn't have to be a big thing. Give them some type of responsibility.
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Mark Entrekin: When we talk about.
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Annette Evans Wilson: Can I? Can. I have you while I get things started? Can I have you go ahead and take attendance.
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Mark Entrekin: Take attendance.
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Annette Evans Wilson: Yeah, you know, for the student
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Annette Evans Wilson: and your attendance over, can you go ahead and take attendance? If your school allows that some schools, some schools won't allow a student to do that.
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Mark Entrekin: This is you talking to the student.
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Annette Evans Wilson: Yeah, yeah.
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Mark Entrekin: Okay.
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Annette Evans Wilson: Or Hey, you know what? We're gonna be using this this handout today for class today. Would you mind going ahead and passing that around to everybody while I get attendance.
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Annette Evans Wilson: In other words, use that student.
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Annette Evans Wilson: For something, for some type of responsibility.
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Annette Evans Wilson: Make that student your assistant.
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Annette Evans Wilson: not necessarily a teacher of the class, because they don't. They don't necessarily want to be
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Annette Evans Wilson: out front, but make them your assistant.
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Annette Evans Wilson: They they want to be in charge.
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Annette Evans Wilson: Okay, that's how that's what the eagle wants. They want to be in charge.
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Annette Evans Wilson: and they're they don't want you to be the boss. They want to be the boss, and they're going to cause you problems until you let them know that
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Annette Evans Wilson: that they at least have some degree of
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Mark Entrekin: Like what you're.
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Annette Evans Wilson: Awesome.
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Mark Entrekin: I like what you're saying now we are at the time this this should have ended. Do you have a few more minutes, Annette? We can continue. Maybe about 10 more minutes would be okay.
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Annette Evans Wilson: Yeah, yeah, okay.
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Mark Entrekin: Good, because that technical difficulties put it back about 20. Then we took away the which, of course, takes away the introduction, but we could go for 10 more minutes. Like to hear more about what you're talking about, because the way we work with people
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Mark Entrekin: each of us could use this on our day to day. Lives right?
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Annette Evans Wilson: Yeah, yeah.
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Mark Entrekin: We wouldn't have to be a teacher.
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Annette Evans Wilson: Okay. Another another thing is, let's say you've got you. You want your kid to clean their bedroom.
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Annette Evans Wilson: Okay, you're gonna ask different things that. That's 1 thing getting the kids to do the jobs around the house.
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Annette Evans Wilson: If you are an eagle parent.
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Annette Evans Wilson: you want them to do the job.
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Annette Evans Wilson: End of discussion.
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Annette Evans Wilson: Okay, no matter what it is.
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Annette Evans Wilson: Do the laundry end of discussion.
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Annette Evans Wilson: Well, we got a problem there in most cases.
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Annette Evans Wilson: Okay, if you've got an Eagle child, not a problem.
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Annette Evans Wilson: Do the laundry. Okay.
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Annette Evans Wilson: If you've got a parent child, you got a real problem is that parrot
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Annette Evans Wilson: has a million other things to do.
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Annette Evans Wilson: and that laundry is not going to get done.
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Annette Evans Wilson: You better make a game. You better make a game out of it. You better make something. Some reason why that parrot is going to have fun doing that laundry.
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Mark Entrekin: That makes no sense so much sense that of course, I can see myself
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Mark Entrekin: back in those days, and I think you talk about there's some parent eagle mixes.
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Annette Evans Wilson: Oh, yes, my son, my son, absolutely
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Annette Evans Wilson: for him. It was a we we had races all the time.
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Annette Evans Wilson: Oh, yeah, you know
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Annette Evans Wilson: once the once once the dryer stopped. Okay, I'm gonna set the timer. Now let's see if you can beat. Let's see if you can beat the time from the last time you folded clothes
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Annette Evans Wilson: and and he could get it done, you know, because he wanted to beat the time so.
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Mark Entrekin: There's a challenge included in what you're talking about.
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Annette Evans Wilson: Absolutely. Parrots have to have fun. That's just what you have to remember. A parrot has to have fun.
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Annette Evans Wilson: Okay, now.
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Mark Entrekin: And again, that fund is based on what their definition, how they see that.
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Annette Evans Wilson: Fun. Right, okay, yeah,
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Mark Entrekin: Alright!
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Annette Evans Wilson: But for for a child. Often it's often that fun is competition. Now with an eagle. Competition is important, too.
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Annette Evans Wilson: So that that is another thing that you can do if you've got an eagle
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Annette Evans Wilson: an eagle parrot, or or even if you have an eagle owl like I had, I I had Eagle Owl and an eagle parrot
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Annette Evans Wilson: I could combine the 2. I could put competition between the 2 of them, but I had to do it a little bit differently.
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Annette Evans Wilson: 1. 0, gosh, owls! They! They have to have everything organized. It has to be just right.
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Annette Evans Wilson: Okay, so I would have to say, not only do you have to have it all folded.
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Annette Evans Wilson: but everything has to be in the right piles to make my owl happy.
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Mark Entrekin: Do you put a value on that right pile? Do you get a a buy in? Perhaps.
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Annette Evans Wilson: Was they got older.
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Mark Entrekin: Okay.
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Annette Evans Wilson: Yeah, yeah, there comes a point when when they absolutely do need need to have something there. But yeah, yeah, there, there does. Come come that point.
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Mark Entrekin: Yeah, I love what you do. This is very interesting to hear and think about.
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Mark Entrekin: Of course, being a coach, I get to talk to a lot of people.
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Annette Evans Wilson: Okay.
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Mark Entrekin: And seeing what you do.
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Mark Entrekin: and sharing those ideas and those concepts about the different birds and the types of birds.
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Annette Evans Wilson: And how they.
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Mark Entrekin: In some ways are very far apart.
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Mark Entrekin: but in some ways like you're saying where they come together.
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Annette Evans Wilson: Absolutely well. Imagine a typical teenage situation.
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Annette Evans Wilson: Okay, imagine you have a son or a daughter that has just broken up with their 1st
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Annette Evans Wilson: Okay, this is a dove that's just gone through their 1st breakup.
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Annette Evans Wilson: And you're an eagle.
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Annette Evans Wilson: What's your 1st inclination to do.
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Annette Evans Wilson: If you're an eagle, your 1st inclination is going to be. Oh, there's lots of fish in the ocean.
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Annette Evans Wilson: Okay, get over it. No problem. Hey? You know what this is your 1st 1st love? It's not, you know, big deal right? That's that's
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Annette Evans Wilson: that's an eagle's life.
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Annette Evans Wilson: Oh, well, if you're a parrot.
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Annette Evans Wilson: It's like, let's go out and have some ice cream. Maybe maybe you'll see some other guys out there while while we're while we're gone, or let's have a party. Let's invite out. Let's invite everybody and make them jelly. Yeah, it's gonna be that kind of a thing. You could see that kind of situation.
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Annette Evans Wilson: But this dove is heartbroken.
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Annette Evans Wilson: He doesn't want to do any of that kind of stuff. The best thing to do for that dove is go and put your arm around him and say, Hey, this must be a really rough day for you. The ice cream doesn't hurt. Let's let's sit down and have a bowl of ice cream, and you know, just
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Annette Evans Wilson: I know this must be a really rough day for you.
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Annette Evans Wilson: Things will get better. But you know what for today. Let's just, you know.
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Annette Evans Wilson: let's just just sit here and maybe watch a movie or something.
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Annette Evans Wilson: That's all they need.
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Mark Entrekin: They don't need you to tell them that.
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Annette Evans Wilson: There's a million other guys there.
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Annette Evans Wilson: They just they just need to know that you care.
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Annette Evans Wilson: So do you see the difference.
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Mark Entrekin: I do.
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Mark Entrekin: These are some very good definitions. I've never thought about it in that bird scenario
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Mark Entrekin: built, and I've seen the disk, the Ise
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Mark Entrekin: and those, and of course the
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Mark Entrekin: Myers Briggs, and this is a.
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Annette Evans Wilson: Yeah.
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Mark Entrekin: Interesting concept that you have put together with this.
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Mark Entrekin: and I mean a very positive, positive way. I want to say the the bird mentality
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Mark Entrekin: because it matches a lot of the way, as you've shown with examples, a lot of a lot of the ways that we act or don't act.
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Mark Entrekin: And here are our attitudes.
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Mark Entrekin: Can lead us. Guide us into certain momentums that
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Mark Entrekin: might not be we want to be back to the attitude process that
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Mark Entrekin: mask you're talking about that mask that we wear.
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Mark Entrekin: It brings another level of consciousness right.
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Annette Evans Wilson: Oh, yeah.
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Annette Evans Wilson: Oh, yeah.
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Mark Entrekin: That's interesting. Alright? Well, it's about 7 min after we've got a few minutes here, but what I'd like to do is
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Mark Entrekin: tell me just a little about about the most significant challenge that you face in establishing these skills. Did you just touch on that quickly before we get into our closure?
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Annette Evans Wilson: I think the most significant challenge that we have is
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Annette Evans Wilson: just getting getting the word out. You might say.
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Annette Evans Wilson: We had hoped to to get
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Annette Evans Wilson: more entrenched in the schools to get this into a lot more schools. But you know it's it seems that
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Annette Evans Wilson: a lot of times the the schools, they say, Oh, we really like this. This is a really great program. And I can see how this is really going to be effective. But we want other schools to do it first.st
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Annette Evans Wilson: And you know we want to see the success in other schools. And I'm like, but I'm a teacher, or you know, I did this as a teacher, and it worked. Oh, yeah. But we want somebody else to do it first.st
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Annette Evans Wilson: And so.
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Mark Entrekin: Wow!
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Annette Evans Wilson: So that's that's really been a struggle doing independent programs, workshops and things like that has been really, I guess the most successful thing that that we've been able to do. And so we may just, you know, continue doing doing workshops, which which is.
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Mark Entrekin: I think what you're doing is great. It's very strong. And what you're doing where you're going with the process and helping.
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Mark Entrekin: as I mentioned that different type of understanding, and
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Mark Entrekin: I think a lot of people have seen disk, and they see it pretty much as another technical.
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Mark Entrekin: As I've talked to people that it's 2,
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Mark Entrekin: maybe, even though it like you said it was from many, many years ago.
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Mark Entrekin: But it's still, very maybe
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Mark Entrekin: I don't know computers the right word, but technically driven in the way it works.
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Annette Evans Wilson: But.
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Mark Entrekin: As you bring another perception to
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Mark Entrekin: what you're bringing forward with this Bird Association.
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Mark Entrekin: And our concept of each of the birds. It makes a huge difference. And I think in what we're doing and how we do them.
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Annette Evans Wilson: It makes it sticky, it it sticks to you. It it makes it something that you can
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Annette Evans Wilson: you can remember.
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Mark Entrekin: And I think we can relate to it better, because who doesn't, good or bad,
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Mark Entrekin: talk to parrot and in the parks, but, good or bad. You have a concept of birds.
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Annette Evans Wilson: And you know that's that's another thing that's important is, behavior isn't bad.
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Annette Evans Wilson: Sometimes you overuse your good traits.
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Annette Evans Wilson: and when you overuse your good traits.
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Annette Evans Wilson: They are seen as being bad
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Annette Evans Wilson: because you've overused them. Think about the aggressive nature of the eagle.
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Annette Evans Wilson: the dominant nature of the eagle. We need that we need that leadership quality. We need that dominance, but if it's overused.
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Annette Evans Wilson: it becomes very aggressive and becomes what we see as very negative.
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Annette Evans Wilson: And so.
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Mark Entrekin: It does.
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Annette Evans Wilson: Them how to pull it back, not how to eliminate it.
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Mark Entrekin: When to use it, and not to overuse it.
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Annette Evans Wilson: Exactly.
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Mark Entrekin: Correct. Great. Thank you so much, and I appreciate again. Thank you for being here. Do you have any last minute words in closing? How can they get in touch with you? We've been to the website again. It is in the chat. Is that the best way.
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Annette Evans Wilson: That is the best way. You can also just contact me at Annette.
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Annette Evans Wilson: at yolsl.org. And let me know what you're interested in. And I will. We, we do design programs for organizations. So if you let me know what along these lines you're interested in, I do speaking
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Annette Evans Wilson: you know, speaking engagements for you know. Just let me know what it is you're interested in.
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Mark Entrekin: Okay? And you do them online. You mentioned that earlier, right?
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Mark Entrekin: Okay, do you do workshops on site.
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Annette Evans Wilson: I I do. Yes, I either way. I yeah, I will do that.
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Mark Entrekin: Was, the.
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Annette Evans Wilson: I will do.
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Mark Entrekin: So much to contact you.
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Annette Evans Wilson: On online. And I'm also in the process of creating some as
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Annette Evans Wilson: classes that you can purchase as well. So I'm in the in the process of doing that as well.
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Mark Entrekin: And I appreciate that, because, as we work together, I hope I can help you continue to help you going forward.
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Mark Entrekin: because that's a lot of what we do with the achieving unity that
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Mark Entrekin: comes sometimes. We don't think about the power. I mean, you talked about the eagle, but so does the parrot and the owl. We all have power at times, and we forget that the encouraging.
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Mark Entrekin: inspiring, and including others, is powerful.
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Mark Entrekin: that the powers, the middle of empowerment and helping others to grow, as I also see what you're doing
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Mark Entrekin: and helping people understand.
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Mark Entrekin: And I love that mask thought process you're talking about because we do.
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Mark Entrekin: A lot of the masks that we wear are yesterday's philosophy. Perhaps.
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Mark Entrekin: That we've brought forward, and things that have happened that we've hung on to, that we know didn't work.
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Mark Entrekin: And that sure brings that forward and what we're doing and where we are going forward.
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Mark Entrekin: And as you do, you work with people personally and professionally right.
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Annette Evans Wilson: Yeah. Oh, yeah.
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Mark Entrekin: It's. It's a concept that we can use at the office
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Mark Entrekin: wherever we may work, we can use it at home as well.
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Mark Entrekin: Is it socially, even in this meeting, right here.
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Mark Entrekin: As we talk about this back and forth.
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Mark Entrekin: Maybe we can see some of those
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Mark Entrekin: bird philosophies in each of us.
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Annette Evans Wilson: Yep, that's right. Yeah.
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Mark Entrekin: The people in the audience. The people that listen to this later, as it will be published to Youtube and be out there in a couple of days. Listen to this again, but to think about
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Mark Entrekin: our spouses, our boss, our workmates.
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Mark Entrekin: the people that we talk with often
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Mark Entrekin: the person at the grocery store.
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Annette Evans Wilson: Oh yes!
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Mark Entrekin: All around us.
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Annette Evans Wilson: And how.
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Mark Entrekin: The philosophy that you brought forward with us can truly help us grow forward positively right.
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Annette Evans Wilson: Oh, yes.
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Mark Entrekin: Alright. And then again, your website is in the chat. Hope everyone takes a chance to look at that. Go out to your site, get a chance to get to know you. Do you have anything, a document, a Pdf. Or anything they could download or to view quickly from your site? I looked at it earlier. Now you have a very impressive site. It's good for people to go see.
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Annette Evans Wilson: Well, let me see, I thought I had sent you one. Perhaps I.
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Mark Entrekin: I haven't.
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Annette Evans Wilson: Did did I send?
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Annette Evans Wilson: Did I not send that to you?
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Mark Entrekin: I just didn't know if you had anything more that you want to add just to that you send people to.
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Mark Entrekin: and what you do. But.
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Annette Evans Wilson: Just what I had sent you.
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Mark Entrekin: Yeah, if there's anything like a gift or anything for that. So okay.
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Annette Evans Wilson: Oh, okay, yeah, yeah. I didn't. I didn't send you the gift.
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Mark Entrekin: With technology. I hope you didn't, and it didn't get lost.
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Annette Evans Wilson: Oh, okay, well, let me.
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Annette Evans Wilson: I can. I can send that again.
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Mark Entrekin: Or if you just have a The, is it a URL? You could put into the chat
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Mark Entrekin: before we close.
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Annette Evans Wilson: Well, let me. I'll have to. I'll have to to find it here.
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Mark Entrekin: Okay, well, that's what I can do. I can make it available. If anyone calls in, I will know that is there and send them on to you. Appreciate it again, Annette. Thank you so much for your time. Thank you for being here. It is all about achieving unity through that power of encouraging.
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Mark Entrekin: inspiring, and including others, as we've talked about here personally
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Mark Entrekin: and professionally. Thank you so much. And then again, Annette, thank you. I'm sure I'll see you in more of the meetings as we go forward. Everyone else. I hope to see you here next week, achieving unity, success, formula.
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Mark Entrekin: enjoy your day.
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Annette Evans Wilson: Alright!
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Mark Entrekin: Talk to you later.
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Mark Entrekin: Thank you. Cheers everyone.
